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Omaha Steve

(99,613 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:27 PM Dec 2014

Joe Scarborough Bashes The Media's 'BS' Coverage Of Ferguson

Source: Business Insider


COLIN CAMPBELL

MSNBC host Joe Scarborough has had it with the Ferguson, Missouri, protests.

Scarborough devoted a lengthy segment on Monday's "Morning Joe" to chastising both the protests and related media coverage. In particular, the former GOP congressman raged against the St. Louis Rams players who expressed solidarity with the demonstrators by raising their hands as they entered the field during their football game on Sunday.

"I'm sorry, this Ram thing, this was the final straw for me," an exasperated Scarborough said. "I have sat here quietly and listened to BS being spewed all over this network and all over other networks. I can't take it anymore."

Ferguson has been the epicenter of racially charged protests since 18-year-old Michael Brown was shot and killed in August by a white police officer. Violent looters and arsonists roiled the city again last week when a grand jury announced its decision not to indict the officer, Darren Wilson.

FULL story at link.



Joe Scarborough, right, on "Morning Joe."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/joe-scarborough-just-went-on-an-epic-tirade-about-ferguson-2014-12



I slept in this morning and missed this. It is time for the DU to start a Joe MUST GO petition and phone/email campaign. This is on the Thom Hartman show NOW.
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Joe Scarborough Bashes The Media's 'BS' Coverage Of Ferguson (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP
Why is this jackass on any media at all, let alone MSNBC? NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #1
Have to agree with Joe on the burning and looting of business in the area, it does Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #2
Sounds like he's more upset about the football players looting football BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #3
Do you think the proper reaction was to burn businesses? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #7
Considering video has come out implicating... giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #13
All the other events does not ok burning and looting a business located in the area. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #17
A handful were burning and looting while thousands protested peacefully starroute Dec 2014 #28
That's the point I was making... . giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #35
Would you have a point if it was your business was burned? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #41
Why do you keep trying to put this on a basis of emotionalism? starroute Dec 2014 #54
Never denied peaceful protesting, burning down a busines is not peaceful Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #57
The cops were doing it... in the part of Ferguson they giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #40
Can you link to the video? joeglow3 Dec 2014 #20
See post #9 giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #37
thanks. I'll check it out tonight. joeglow3 Dec 2014 #55
who the fuck is advocating burning businesses?? yodermon Dec 2014 #25
Thank you, yoderman. elleng Dec 2014 #27
I have not advocated burning businesses, it is not acceptable to damage one's place of business Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #44
No lsewpershad Dec 2014 #42
In the words of the late, great Mark Twain: KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #43
but its not unexpected...there will always be people that take advantage after chaos.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #6
You did see the video of the POLICE lighting a car on fire? Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #9
Maybe Android3.14 Dec 2014 #30
Where there is smoke.... Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #38
Again, maybe, but probably not in this instance Android3.14 Dec 2014 #53
How many videos of the trouble makers do we have? Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #56
As if anyone knows that answer Android3.14 Dec 2014 #60
Your the one that mentioned all the cameras taking videos that night Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #61
What is the sense of your last statement? Android3.14 Dec 2014 #62
I'm dropping it Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #63
Right Android3.14 Dec 2014 #64
Progress as in you look at a video with you eyes closed and don't see police in riot gear... Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #65
Thank you for that link. I would have never known if you had not taken the time to post it. Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #46
Yes, but the Ferguson protesters did not do the looting and burning. They were busy protesting. immoderate Dec 2014 #14
Exactly, it's a non-sequitur. The protesters and organizers lovemydog Dec 2014 #33
point DMay Dec 2014 #19
Police setting fires DMay Dec 2014 #29
The agitators are here as well Android3.14 Dec 2014 #31
Absolutely! Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #47
Looting and burning is not the issue Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2014 #36
Burning things is wrong, BUT nichomachus Dec 2014 #45
I avoid his show at all costs Faux pas Dec 2014 #4
Shame on MSNBC for keeping Dead Intern Joe on the air. Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #5
MSNBC will cater to anyone or anything that will asjr Dec 2014 #16
Wow! I thought I was the only one who called him "Dead Intern Joe" LibGranny Dec 2014 #26
He took off to save himself some trouble with full on investigations, no doubt at all. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #48
I am sooooo glad heaven05 Dec 2014 #8
Same here. lovemydog Dec 2014 #39
I live in the town where his dead intern was found. FLPanhandle Dec 2014 #10
QUIT turbinetree Dec 2014 #11
msnbc seems to have a death wish samsingh Dec 2014 #12
Someone messed up the photo caption VWolf Dec 2014 #15
And I'm supposed to care what this idiot has to say, why? deutsey Dec 2014 #18
Does anyone have a link to contact MSNBC? jillan Dec 2014 #21
I guess people who get away with murder, stick together? DMay Dec 2014 #22
Will any of the MSNBC evening shows take this on? Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #23
Ah, you poor thing. C Moon Dec 2014 #24
I heard it, I thought it was over the top. It's been a piss poor situation all the RKP5637 Dec 2014 #32
What's a little institutionalized murder gonna bother Dead Intern Joe? graegoyle Dec 2014 #34
A (white) cop friend of mine told me that he believes the Ferguson police parked the police cars Zen Democrat Dec 2014 #49
How's that white guilt treating you Joe? Must be fun keeping it in the closet. apnu Dec 2014 #50
Well thank god, a white FOX dude has finally spoken up to settle the issue! Scootaloo Dec 2014 #51
who'd like to shit in Scarborough's hair ? olddots Dec 2014 #52
he's nuts Ghost of Tom Joad Dec 2014 #58
''That was the last straw ... I can't take it anymore.'' DeSwiss Dec 2014 #59

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. Why is this jackass on any media at all, let alone MSNBC?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:30 PM
Dec 2014

Was there ever a conclusion to the dead coworker of his?

Is there an official report that absolutely exonerates him?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Have to agree with Joe on the burning and looting of business in the area, it does
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:31 PM
Dec 2014

Not help the cause, it only hurts the hard working owners.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
3. Sounds like he's more upset about the football players looting football
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:34 PM
Dec 2014

aka the white man's favorite pastime, watching black guys in armor knock the crap out of each other.

It shall not be sullied!

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
13. Considering video has come out implicating...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:45 PM
Dec 2014

some upstanding SWAT members brandishing M4s starting some of those fires you may want to update your single talking point.

I would also prefer my sons not have targets on them simply because of their skin tone.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
54. Why do you keep trying to put this on a basis of emotionalism?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:21 PM
Dec 2014

The peaceful protesters were not responsible for burning the businesses. If I owned one of those businesses myself, the peaceful protesters would still not be responsible. If my life's work was ruined and my dog died, the peaceful protesters would still not be responsible.

You seem to be saying that nobody has a right to protest because it might provide cover for others to make mischief in the confusion. But that's like saying the entire internet should be censored lest a five year old somewhere see one dirty word. It's a completely disingenuous argument.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
57. Never denied peaceful protesting, burning down a busines is not peaceful
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:56 PM
Dec 2014

What crime did the business owners do to warrant having their business destroyed. If you have difficulty having compassion for the business owners then why should you expect any results from anyone protesting.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
44. I have not advocated burning businesses, it is not acceptable to damage one's place of business
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:54 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)

And it does not matter who is burning buildings.

lsewpershad

(2,620 posts)
42. No
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:41 PM
Dec 2014

I believe every minority should carry a gun to defend himself when he becomes afraid or feel threatened by a white person..... jeeze.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
43. In the words of the late, great Mark Twain:
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:43 PM
Dec 2014
THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court


You should think about Twain's words very carefullyas they apply to the post-Grand Jury press conference aftermath in Ferguson when set against the context of 3+ centuries of virulent anti-black racism. You might wish to check your sanctimony.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
6. but its not unexpected...there will always be people that take advantage after chaos....
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:36 PM
Dec 2014

At least they don't riot and destroy shit because their team won or lost!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
30. Maybe
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:55 PM
Dec 2014

It certainly wasn't a flash bang grenade. Also, there were so many cameras out those nights that if they were setting fire to all those buildings along the avenue, someone would have caught it in much greater detail than a happenstance camera panning across the action.

Omaha Steve

(99,613 posts)
38. Where there is smoke....
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:15 PM
Dec 2014


This does show police were involved in at least some of the problems. How many were fires were started by Wilson sympathizers, not protesters?

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
53. Again, maybe, but probably not in this instance
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:18 PM
Dec 2014

People were watching the police like crazy during these events, and it stretches credibility that the only piece of evidence is this brief little pan.
Additionally, others looking into this have found images of the vehicle still in the parking lot, unburned beside the burned out store.

Omaha Steve

(99,613 posts)
56. How many videos of the trouble makers do we have?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:49 PM
Dec 2014

How many were Wilson sympathizers? They wouldn't necessarily be COPS. Remember Scott Walker was on tape about hiring trouble makers in Wisconsin. Same thing.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
60. As if anyone knows that answer
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:07 PM
Dec 2014

The point is that this video, which is the only one I know of that purports to show police setting fires, is probably a lie, reduces the ability of people seeking to promote a positive change in the current state of police practices, and only makes the chance of progress even more remote.

Omaha Steve

(99,613 posts)
61. Your the one that mentioned all the cameras taking videos that night
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:12 PM
Dec 2014

But dismiss THIS particular one.

We know there was news coverage, yet we don't see who started most of these fires.

Maybe you need to rethink your position?

OS

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
62. What is the sense of your last statement?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:50 PM
Dec 2014

You posted the link in response to the statement "Have to agree with Joe on the burning and looting of business in the area, it does not help the cause, it only hurts the hard working owners." as proof that the cops were the ones doing the burning.

That image of the unburned truck in the parking lot shows that your response is based on a false premise.

My position is that there has yet to be any proof that cops did the burning and that the riots just harden the stance of those who blindly support the police. I personally think the whole system is inherently broken and that the FBI should be investigating MO police practices all the way to the state capitol.

But that will never happen if people think those who are complaining are bunch of intentionally ignorant doofuses who lack the sense to avoid defecating in their own beds.

It's much like our noting that Republicans are too stupid to lead because they are lousy spellers, as evidenced in their protest signs. A right winger sees that video and the thoughtless responses to it and thinks, liberals are too stupid to judge police because they can't even tell the difference between a burned car, an unburned car and an empty parking lot.

Your misguided insistence that the video is proof of cops setting fires makes us all look bad and consequently makes it that much easier for people to dismiss our real grievances.

Omaha Steve

(99,613 posts)
65. Progress as in you look at a video with you eyes closed and don't see police in riot gear...
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 11:02 PM
Dec 2014

"Quade" open your mind.

Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
46. Thank you for that link. I would have never known if you had not taken the time to post it.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:11 PM
Dec 2014

For those of us who've known about police provocateurs already, this is sadly unsurprising.

More people should know. Information stamps out hostile ignorance and wildly stupid belligerence which we've seen in abundance here already.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
14. Yes, but the Ferguson protesters did not do the looting and burning. They were busy protesting.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:46 PM
Dec 2014

I think that was done by outside agitators, perhaps aided by local psychopaths, but we don't know, because the police, for all their number, don't want to do anything about it.

To say that arson and theft doesn't help the cause, requires a presumption that there is that intent. Obviously, it's a non-sequitur.

--imm

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
33. Exactly, it's a non-sequitur. The protesters and organizers
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:05 PM
Dec 2014

are doing everything humanly possible to keep things peaceful.

Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
47. Absolutely!
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:13 PM
Dec 2014

Welcome to D.U., DMay.

This has been happening a very long time, unfortunately. Sad.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
45. Burning things is wrong, BUT
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:06 PM
Dec 2014

you can only push people so far and they do things like that. Frustration and anger work themselves out -- often in ways some people sitting on the sidelines find unacceptable.

Maybe if you saw your teenage kid arrested 15 or 20 times for doing nothing, you'd have a different view.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
16. MSNBC will cater to anyone or anything that will
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:51 PM
Dec 2014

promote the Republicans. They had one of the very best in Keith Olberman and let him go. I feel soon they may find reason to take out Rachel Maddow. I do not watch Scarred Joe. Our country has become the ones who have the money to buy our president.

LibGranny

(711 posts)
26. Wow! I thought I was the only one who called him "Dead Intern Joe"
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:36 PM
Dec 2014

He quit congress before that dead intern problem was resolved I think!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. I am sooooo glad
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:37 PM
Dec 2014

the those Rams players stuck it in the eye of many who were watching and have continually given that bullshit about property being more important and worthy of condemnation than executions of unarmed black males in the streets, parks and stores. I applaud their action to the high heavens. Who said they couldn't be political. Fuck joseph scaronthefaceofamerikkka.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
11. QUIT
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 01:41 PM
Dec 2014

Then QUIT, you right wing hypocrite and go back to Florida and get a show with Rush Limburger, you two would be just grand together spewing your hate a fear, then you can say whatever you want and then you can loose commercial contracts just like Limburger and then go completely off the air.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
32. I heard it, I thought it was over the top. It's been a piss poor situation all the
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:03 PM
Dec 2014

way around and all he did was rub salt in the wounds. He added no value to a situation/solution many black people endure in this country. Bottom line, it was stupid and inflammatory IMO!

graegoyle

(532 posts)
34. What's a little institutionalized murder gonna bother Dead Intern Joe?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 03:12 PM
Dec 2014

Now, muddy his ability to watch the gladiators and someone must answer!

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
49. A (white) cop friend of mine told me that he believes the Ferguson police parked the police cars
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:47 PM
Dec 2014

that were worn out or damaged in the protest areas so they could get insurance money from fires and other damage to buy new ones. He says it's SOP.

Ghost of Tom Joad

(1,355 posts)
58. he's nuts
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 08:44 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Wed Dec 3, 2014, 02:58 PM - Edit history (1)

why did he keep saying over and over again Brown knocked over a convenience store?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
59. ''That was the last straw ... I can't take it anymore.''
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 09:53 PM
Dec 2014
- Aww, so sorry to hear you're leaving Joe. When's your last day? I don't want to miss it!

K&R

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