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cer7711

(502 posts)
Tue Dec 9, 2014, 11:58 PM Dec 2014

Architects of CIA Torture Program Raked in $81 Million, Report Reveals

Source: Huffington Post

Two psychologists were paid $81 million by the CIA to advise on and help implement its brutal interrogation program targeting detainees in the war on terror, according to the Senate torture report summary released Tuesday.

The contract psychologists are identified with pseudonyms -- Grayson Swigert and Hammond Dunbar -- like most of the individuals named in the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on the CIA program. Published reports dating back to 2007, however, identify the two men as James Elmer Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, both former members of the military.

For six years, starting in 2002, the two psychologists operated what amounted to a feedback loop of torture, coming up with new ways to inflict pain on detainees and then convincing CIA brass that the harsh tactics had worked.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/09/cia-torture-contractors_n_6296758.html

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Architects of CIA Torture Program Raked in $81 Million, Report Reveals (Original Post) cer7711 Dec 2014 OP
81 million to come up with shit that sounds like Beavis and Butthead TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #1
WTF!!!! billhicks76 Dec 2014 #10
I just read the Wickipedia bio on these two zeemike Dec 2014 #2
links Fred Drum Dec 2014 #9
What carried them? Greed? Or psychopathy? elias49 Dec 2014 #3
Sick fuck Sadists. SoapBox Dec 2014 #4
do remember DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #5
Saw Rachel talking today with ACLU representative who is telling President Obama that he should jwirr Dec 2014 #6
For a Presidential Pardon to be valid, the Pardon-ee has to accept, (thereby, ADMITTING guilt) Volaris Dec 2014 #8
these two, at a minimum Fred Drum Dec 2014 #7
Sadists colbertforpresident Dec 2014 #11
May they get their just rewards. n/t Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #12
As somebody going into the Psych field this horrifies me. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #13
Hey Anonymous! These guys need your attention! nt Bragi Dec 2014 #14

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. 81 million to come up with shit that sounds like Beavis and Butthead
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:03 AM
Dec 2014

were in charge: "I know, let's put tubes up their butts and tell them we're feeding them...heh heh...heh heh...how about we tell them we're gonna kill them, heh heh...heh heh...let's put a bag over their heads and punch them, heh heh...heh heh..."

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
10. WTF!!!!
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:59 AM
Dec 2014

81 Million just to offer techniques to torture or interrogate ? At the very least they should be prosecuted for fraud and theft against the American people. These scumbags should pay a heavy price.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
2. I just read the Wickipedia bio on these two
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:17 AM
Dec 2014

And it is up to date already.

Quite a pair they are...both retired military officers that got a contract with the government to torture people...the revolving door of the Military Industrial Complex.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
5. do remember
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:32 AM
Dec 2014

The war machine, even if it does not win wars or actually do good things, is running as expected, as a profit machine.

Suppose for example Bush declared we were done after Hussein was out of power. That could have been at least a clear cut statement of purpose, but it would have made Cheney's friends at Halliburton squeal now that their blood fueled money machine was out of gas. Quagmires make money, period.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. Saw Rachel talking today with ACLU representative who is telling President Obama that he should
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:35 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Wed Dec 10, 2014, 01:24 AM - Edit history (1)

pardon some of the leaders in this mess. He wants it done because they are not going to go to trial but IF they are pardoned then is clear they committed crimes and were guilty of them. These two guys, W, and Cheney should be on this list. There may also be others - Hayden maybe also. He did a lot of the lying.

If we are not going to get trials then at least give them the label - the big C (for criminal) on their chest.

Wondering what the rest of you think?

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
8. For a Presidential Pardon to be valid, the Pardon-ee has to accept, (thereby, ADMITTING guilt)
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 02:01 AM
Dec 2014

and that ain't NEVER gonna happen.
Obama offers a Presidential Pardon to these fuckers, and they reject it on the grounds that they don't actually NEED one, all it does is make the President look like he's grasping at straws at best, and trying to FORGIVE these crimes otherwise.

So since you asked, my answer is "Fuck That."

Let the pressure build. Eventually, it WILL hit Critical Mass, and SOMEONE will end up under Oath, and that guy will roll over on the next guy in line, and so on and so forth, all the way up the chain, and THEN we will get the Justice we actually need to heal.

Fred Drum

(293 posts)
7. these two, at a minimum
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:56 AM
Dec 2014

should be indicted

again, as a minimum, theft of honest service is a crime

someone needs to argue their service was honest

the whole $81 million dollar part is another story, something more than theft

i'll enjoy the public trial

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