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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:20 AM Dec 2014

Justice Department Will Not Reopen Torture Inquiry

Source: USA TODAY

Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY 1:52 a.m. EST December 10, 2014

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department's decision Tuesday not to re-open a criminal investigation into the CIA's treatment of detainees immediately prompted a renewed debate about how those responsible for the torture of 9/11 suspects should be held accountable.

While some civil rights advocates and legal analysts said the grim disclosure of abuses — water-boarding, extreme sleep deprivation and others — outlined by the Senate Intelligence Committee's report offered new evidence of criminal acts that should be prosecuted, others suggested that new laws may be the only salve to a system that allowed the brutal interrogations.

"The true test of our nation's character comes now,'' said Elizabeth Goitein, co-director of the Liberty and National Security Program at New York University's Brennan Center for Justice. "Will we make excuses and try to defend the indefensible? Or will we finally acknowledge that our nation crossed a terrible line, and start talking about accountability?''

Goitein said the most "realistic'' path toward that accountability, given Justice's decision not to renew its criminal inquiry, is to rid the government of a structure that permitted such a program.

"At every level, we need to hold the system accountable,'' Goitein said. "This wasn't just the work of rogue officials.''

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/09/justice-cia-torture/20138065/

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Justice Department Will Not Reopen Torture Inquiry (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2014 OP
No surprise there. Autumn Dec 2014 #1
How is our SamKnause Dec 2014 #2
I think that they mean RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #5
Some people are above the law. Solly Mack Dec 2014 #3
I agree with Elizabeth Goitein... ReRe Dec 2014 #4
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Dec 2014 #6
Time to appeal to the World Court RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #7
The U.S. is not a member. former9thward Dec 2014 #10
K&R n/t Feral Child Dec 2014 #8
I'm wondering about any nuanced differences between our "zero tolerance" culture and "torture." Trillo Dec 2014 #9
If they did nothing wrong, they should have no fear of prosecution. grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #11
Another day, another obummer. PSPS Dec 2014 #12

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
2. How is our
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 03:39 AM
Dec 2014

two tier justice system working out for everybody ?????????????????

Wall Street; above the law.

The Pentagon; above the law.

Law enforcement; above the law.

The NSA; above the law.

The DEA; above the law.

Our politicians, presidents, and vice presidents; above the law.

The CIA; running our government from the shadows.

If we don't get outside help, these problems will never be addressed.

The U.S. is a rogue country.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
4. I agree with Elizabeth Goitein...
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 04:58 AM
Dec 2014

"..... the most realistic path toward accountability, given Justice's decision not to renew its criminal inquiry, is to rid the government of a structure that permitted such a program."



 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. Time to appeal to the World Court
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 07:53 AM
Dec 2014

Bring them to The Hague, and have them tried there, and lets see what the rest of the world thinks of this.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
9. I'm wondering about any nuanced differences between our "zero tolerance" culture and "torture."
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 12:07 PM
Dec 2014
Elisa Massimino, president and chief executive of Human Rights First, said the immediate goal should be focused on "building a durable consensus against torture in the U.S.''


We have deeply embedded religions in the U.S. that delight in their hatred and contempt of certain groups and intend long-lasting harm, we have a deeply embedded and long-term police state culture, we have more folks in prison than anywhere else in the world, an embedded deep-punishment paradigm, and we have a society that is deep into deception and denial. While this is not exhaustive, it would seem difficult to develop a consensus against hatred and contempt, it is evident everywhere we look when we desire to look deeper than the surface manifestation, the facade.

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
12. Another day, another obummer.
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 09:19 PM
Dec 2014

Sorry, swooners, that my desire for a president who doesn't consistently run interference for the worst criminals in modern history gives you a sad.

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