Senate Report Rejects Claim on Hunt for Bin Laden
Source: NY Times
WASHINGTON Months before the operation that killed Osama bin Laden in 2011, the Central Intelligence Agency secretly prepared a public-relations plan that would stress that information gathered from its disputed interrogation program had played a critical role in the hunt. Starting the day after the raid, agency officials in classified briefings made that point to Congress.
But in page after page of previously classified evidence, the Senate Intelligence Committee report on C.I.A. torture, released Tuesday, rejects the notion that torturing detainees contributed to finding Bin Laden a conclusion that was also strongly implied in Zero Dark Thirty, the popular 2012 movie about the hunt for the Qaeda leader.
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It was in 2004 that the C.I.A. came to realize that it should focus on finding Mr. Kuwaiti as part of the hunt for Bin Laden, after it interrogated a Qaeda operative, Hassan Ghul, who had been captured in Iraqi Kurdistan. The report concludes that Mr. Ghul provided the most accurate intelligence that the agency produced about Mr. Kuwaitis role and ties to Bin Laden.
The Senate Intelligence Committee report discredits the notion that the C.I.A. would not have found Osama bin Laden if it had not tortured detainees. But the report emphasizes that Mr. Ghul provided all the important information about the courier before he was subjected to any torture techniques and spoke freely to his interrogators. During that two-day period in January 2004, it said, the C.I.A. produced 21 intelligence reports from Mr. Ghul, who one officer said sang like a tweetie bird.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/10/world/senate-report-raises-doubts-about-cia-claims-on-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden.html?_r=0
So the CIA knew about a link between bin Laden and the currier in 2002 and yet
bush and Cheney did nothing about getting bin Laden?
underpants
(182,839 posts)I took the point of the movie as being that torture got them nowhere. It was the main character's use of intelligence gathering that lead them to the currier.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)It's worded badly, but a second read will make it clear(er). At least it did for me.
underpants
(182,839 posts)A second read did help
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 10, 2014, 02:40 PM - Edit history (1)
Used email 'save draft' folder to communicate. That's what I remember.
To allow bushcheney- to set-up a 'for profit' torture Corp. industry was a ridiculous squander of Americans Federal money.
edit I meant Pakistan
Botany
(70,523 posts)And lives too. When we got bin Laden he was living less then a few miles from
Pakistan's military college in Abbottabad, Pakistan. No way that the Pakistani
government and intel did not know he was there. And that on the morning of 9-11
HW Bush was at a meeting with members of the bin Laden family seems more
then a little strange too.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)The bush-empire, et. all have taken so much from 'America'. They continue to take, to stuff in their pockets much more then they ever give.
I understand what you mean about the lives lost, the suffering.
Botany
(70,523 posts)... and not tell them about the raid on the bin Laden compound because they
were sure that Pakistani intell would have tipped off bin Laden.
I find it more then a little perplexing that they very same time bin Laden moved into
Abbottabad .... 2005 .... the bush admin shut down the CIA hunt for bin Laden.
Maybe some waterboarding could help their memories?
Sunlei
BTW does anybody still talk about the $12 billion in cash that went missing in Iraq?
http://www.thepaltrysapien.com/2011/06/iraqs-missing-money/poar02_iraq_billions0710/
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Wish they would release the full report so we all can move past the historic publication and start to deal with it. It's going to take many years to reveal the full truth of this mess. I want to live to see this happen in my lifetime and I want those old school boys' alive to face it too.
All the ' usa media' wants to do is have unwashed masses fight over enemas.
lark
(23,123 posts)He's the son of Bush Sr.'s longtime business partner. Bush changed the immigration law within a week of stealing office so that people from Saudi Arabia were not reviewed for the terrorist list. They were to be cleared to come to this country with no review. Some of the 9/11 folks were on the terrorist list and this incident would have been prevented had Bush not personally enabled it. On 9/11, the family members of Osama and the Saudi royals (who were financially supporting some of the terrorists) were put on a plane by Cheney and sent out of this country without any interrogations at all, while no other planes were allowed to fly in the US. So many clues (no response from American military), Bush continuing to read to children while the country was under attack, point to their involvement. There are many more clues than I've briefly listed here.
Bush and Cheney are terrorists, criminals and murderers. Don't see how Obama can sleep at night protecting these worst of the worst so called people.