Man accidentally shot with officer's stray bullet
Source: AP
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) A police officer's gun accidentally went off as he crept through a broken window during an Albuquerque burglary investigation, wounding a man in an apartment below, officials said Monday.
Police emphasized the shooting was accidental, but it occurred in an agency under intense scrutiny for a series of shootings over the past several years.
The latest incident happened early Sunday while police were investigating a break-in at a second-floor apartment, Albuquerque Police spokesman Simon Drobik said.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d7750bc98b0d4865bf64db121c0fac69/police-albuquerque-officer-accidentally-shoot-man
See also Albuquerque Journal
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Insufficient training, not surprised at this.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)These idiots carry Glocks, they do not have a safety or decocking mechanism what Glock refers to as a safety is a small lever that sits in the middle of the trigger and the only thing required to shoot is to pull the trigger no other safety to disengage .. if there is a round chambered it is hot to go with only a trigger pull ..
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Maybe we give them all slower guns, they have to think for a moment.
I was just commenting on the "accidentally went off" headline, as if it exploded in the holster.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Is very very important with all guns but with Glock it is imperative to keep finger off of trigger until ready to shoot or to not carry with a round chambered.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)very heavy trigger pulls but somehow that does stop this.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Verbally and in real life.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Old Codger
(4,205 posts)there is a small lever integral to the trigger that they refer to as a safety, all it really does is stop the trigger from being activated without a finger on it to depress that lever. They are actually no where near as safe as a revolver since they are not really a double action, once a round is chambered they are live the trigger pull merely releases the firing pin it does not activate a 'hammer" like a revolver does it is like a revolver with the hammer pulled into the cocked position just needing a small extra bit of pressure to release it.
I carried a Glock for many years but refused to carry with a round chambered therefor needed to actually chamber a round before it could be fired, I now carry a Beretta which does have an external safety and de-cocking ability.
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Welcome to the Beretta club!
Recursion
(56,582 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)However, the long and heavy pull of the DA trigger does supply some benefit.
That is one of the reasons that some police departments put heavy triggers in their Glocks.
benEzra
(12,148 posts)These idiots carry Glocks, they do not have a safety or decocking mechanism what Glock refers to as a safety is a small lever that sits in the middle of the trigger and the only thing required to shoot is to pull the trigger no other safety to disengage .. if there is a round chambered it is hot to go with only a trigger pull ..
Just like a police revolver, which the Glock was designed to emulate. A DA/SA will also go off if you put your finger in the trigger guard and pull the trigger, as will every other double-action or striker-fired design intended to be carried with the safety off. The only pistols that would be commonly carried in the hand with the safety on are those with a 1911 style thumb-rest safety (because the 1911 is carried with the hammer cocked), but carrying with your finger on the trigger is *still* a stupid violation of one of the fundamental rules of gun safety, namely keep your damn finger off the damn trigger until your sights are on target and you are ready to shoot.
If his finger was off the trigger instead of pulling it, the gun would not have fired, even if it were thrown off a 3-story building and landed on concrete.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)but reading your explanation of the Glock sent shivers down my spine. One of my oldest friends was married to a gun lover. He was a cop in a city in Westchester County, New York. He carried a gun with him at all times. His off duty gun was a Glock. When I think that I was around him quite a lot when they were married and raising children and he was carrying a gun that could go off so easily, I am slightly nauseated. Thank the Gods that nothing ever happened.
They_Live
(3,233 posts)woo hoo!
ileus
(15,396 posts)May I recommend a CZ p-07
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Yes, you have a heavy trigger pull as the trigger rotates the cylinder, but do police really need to be able to shoot 14 rounds before reloading? If they do, why are the police staying with Pistols in the first place, go to M16s and get it over with.
In the FBI shootout they like to talk about as showing how ineffective revolvers were, they forget to talk about the fact they went after two men, one armed with an Assault Weapon (A mini-14) and the other with a shotgun. Both had military training and the element of surprise had been lost. The FBI agents ended up in a true gun fight and found themselves outgunned for they took pistols to a rifle fight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout
Revolvers are safer (you can easy see if they are unloaded, Automatic Pistols require a two step motion to check if they are unloaded AND if you do the two steps backward, the pistol is still loaded).
In the days before everyone adopted Automatics, when the "Average Gunfight" occurred, the officers involved only fire two rounds.
In case of bad ammunition causing a misfire, the officer with a revolver only had to pull the trigger once more time, the officer with the automatic MUST work the action and then pull the trigger.
Yes, Automatics fire more rounds per minutes and quicker to reload, but do police actually need those elements? If they do, they outgunned to begin with and should withdraw and get their shotguns or rifles.
Sorry, with the recent shootings, I am getting to the point no police officer should carry anything more then a billy club the first five years on the job. If he or she is unwilling to do so, hire someone who will.
ileus
(15,396 posts)She's comfortable with 5 rounds of 38, and that beats nothing I suppose.
I go with a single stack 9mm for my PSD with a 8+1.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)No fault of the revolver, some people believe he was set up to be killed. He was working with three other officers, his job was to force the door open and arrest the suspect. In his own words this is what happened next:
Read more, it will discuss you for the next paragraph was:
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160.html#ixzz3M7MvIeln
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160.html#ixzz3M7MS3YKm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Serpico
His latest writing on police corruption written in October 2014:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160.html#.VIW-_WTF_8M
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Have not had the pleasure but have heard a lot of good about it. Just went to Beretta Storm and so far am fairly impressed with it.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)for being kept safe.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)It seemed apparent though