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Omaha Steve

(99,646 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:41 PM Dec 2014

N.F.L. Sued by Players Union Over Adrian Peterson Ruling

Source: NY Times

The N.F.L. Players Association sued the N.F.L. on Monday on behalf of Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, arguing that the suspension for the remainder of the season that he received for beating his 4-year-old child was unfair and that the arbitrator who upheld the suspension was biased.

The complaint, filed in federal court in Minnesota, attacks the league for its handling of Peterson’s case and portrays Roger Goodell, the N.F.L.’s commissioner, as arbitrary and heavy-handed. The players association asked the court to reverse the arbitrator’s decision and allow Peterson to be reinstated.

Peterson claimed the league had agreed that after his legal case was resolved, he would be allowed to return to the team. He pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge in November. Yet days later, Goodell suspended Peterson for at least the rest of the season for beating his son and not showing sufficient remorse.

The Vikings’ Adrian Peterson had appealed to be reinstated after facing child abuse charges this season.Arbitrator Upholds Season-Long Ban of Vikings’ Adrian PetersonDEC. 12, 2014

FULL story at link.



The players association accused Roger Goodell of bending the rules to keep Adrian Peterson, left, off the field. Credit Brendan Mcdermid/Reuters

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/16/sports/football/nfl-sued-by-players-union-over-adrian-peterson-ruling.html

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N.F.L. Sued by Players Union Over Adrian Peterson Ruling (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP
If arbirtration decisions are meaningless, why even have them? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #1
I can see a few reasons Posteritatis Dec 2014 #7
Why? JeffHead Dec 2014 #2
I am sick and tired VA_Jill Dec 2014 #3
NFL promised him two games? Bradical79 Dec 2014 #4
The NFL botched yet another suspension and even lied about it. I'm not defending OverBurn Dec 2014 #5
Effects on the brain of spanking... littlemissmartypants Dec 2014 #6
It's not even like AP just "spanked" his kids for disciplinary reasons Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #8

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. If arbirtration decisions are meaningless, why even have them?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 10:48 PM
Dec 2014

Why not go straight to the lawsuits, if you're simply going to ignore arbitration if it goes against you?

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
7. I can see a few reasons
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:33 PM
Dec 2014

The first one's in reply #2 - it's part of a union's job to protect its members, even in really distasteful situations like this one at times, so to a point that's their duty.

The other one in this case is that they're questioning how independent the arbitrator is in the first place, since there was a dispute over who should handle the situation. If the arbitrator's appointed by one side in a dispute, and decides in their favor, there's all kinds of grounds to question the legitimacy of the whole process.

The second's worth challenging in general, since a lot of institutions abuse the crap out of arbitration. A lot of the time - probably most of the time - it actually is meaningless, because it's easy to put together a situation that looks a whole lot like one side deciding in advance what the outcome should be and telling the arbitrator to reach that conclusion. Most companies that stick you-can't-sue-us clauses into their products are fond of that one, and lots of employers stick similar things into contracts as well. "If you have a problem with what we're doing, you can bring it up to the guy we appoint who will decide whether you're right or not" is an inherently untrustworthy situation; the association in this case is trying to argue that that's what's going on.

I'm actually okay with courts taking a good, long, hard look at how arbitration is handled these days. Properly done, with processes agreed on without duress by both sides and using actual independent parties, it can satisfy both sides (or at least resolve things in a somewhat collegial manner). It can keep a lot of issues out of courts where they'd be orders of magnitude more costly, hostile, and drawn-out. But as it is binding arbitration generally isn't properly handled.

If a few cases land in the right positions to better define the expectations and limits of the whole process, everyone benefits.

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
2. Why?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:06 PM
Dec 2014

Because they have to. They are a union. They stick up for their members. It's what they do. Good or bad, they wouldn't be much of a union if they just took this laying down. I don't agree with what he did, but I agree with his right to appeal the sentence.

VA_Jill

(9,976 posts)
3. I am sick and tired
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:06 PM
Dec 2014

of Peterson's whining. He is no more "entitled" to play than any other idiot. He's about to find out, I suspect, that he's poison.....no team will want him, no matter how good he is, because he'll be poison to the fans. Hitting your 4 year old kid with a switch until you raise welts and bruises and draw blood is just not very popular with most folks, no matter what they may think about spanking.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
4. NFL promised him two games?
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

I'm having copy/paste issues with my tablet but ABC seems to have audio recording of NFL exec promissing Peterson two games. Sounds like the NFL really botched this one. Seems like Peterson has a pretty good case, unfortunately.

OverBurn

(950 posts)
5. The NFL botched yet another suspension and even lied about it. I'm not defending
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:44 PM
Dec 2014

Peterson, he's a scum bag. NFL commissioner Goodell needs to go though, he has been an incompetent idiot in his handling of just about everything.

littlemissmartypants

(22,667 posts)
6. Effects on the brain of spanking...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:53 PM
Dec 2014

Research: spanking or other forms of corporal punishment can alter children's brains

Researchers say physical punishment actually alters the brain -- not only in an "I'm traumatized" kind of way but also in an "I literally have less gray matter in my brain" kind of way.


http://www.ktsm.com/news/research-spanking-or-other-forms-corporal-punishment-can-alter-childrens-brains

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. It's not even like AP just "spanked" his kids for disciplinary reasons
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:29 PM
Dec 2014

For starters, the victims were literally too young to properly process mentally concepts of "right" and "wrong"...

Secondly, Peterson has (disturbingly) hinted at the messages to the mothers that the switchings were much more about "toughening his kids up", since he also went through the same cruel, misguided rite of passage at that age...

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