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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:00 PM Dec 2014

Canada To Curb Spending If Needed Due To Oil: Minister

Source: REUTERS

Mon Dec 15, 2014



By Randall Palmer

OTTAWA (Reuters) - The Canadian government will curb its spending if necessary due to lower oil prices in order to meet its budgetary plans, Treasury Board President Tony Clement told Reuters on Monday.

The federal government has pledged to balance the budget in 2015-16 but if oil prices continue to be low, they are expected to take a bite out of government revenues

"We continue to monitor the situation very closely, I can assure you of that, and if we have to make changes to our plans, we will do that," Clement, who is responsible for federal spending, said in an interview.

"But I don't think the appropriate response is to light our hair on fire and run around in circles. I don't think anybody wants us to panic. I think everybody wants us to stick to our plan."


Read more: http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCAKBN0JT1RG20141215



Canadian Dollar Trading At 85 Cents US As Crude Markets Continue Rout

Dec 15, 2014 5:27 PM ET

Oil prices continued their search for a bottom on Monday, falling on international markets after a United Arab Emirates minister said OPEC has no plans to revise production.

West Texas Intermediate, the main oil contract traded in New York, fell below its Friday low of $57 US and continued dropping closing at $55.38 US a barrel on Monday. It fell $2.44 today and is down 46 per cent on the year.

Brent, the crude contract traded in Europe and Asia, was at $60.62 a barrel, down $1.23 and hitting a five-year low.

The crude-sensitive Canadian dollar is now below 86 cents US, closing down 0.63 of a cent to 85.79 cents US.

more...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/oil-slides-below-56-us-after-opec-says-it-s-waiting-on-market-1.2873665

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Canada To Curb Spending If Needed Due To Oil: Minister (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2014 OP
Canada, may I ask something DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #1
Are you guys planning to get Republicans out of the House and Senate? GliderGuider Dec 2014 #3
no offense GG DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #4
Sorry I was brusque. Of course I know that. GliderGuider Dec 2014 #5
I hear you DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #6
And Australia has Abbott, and Britain has Cameron... GliderGuider Dec 2014 #7
The problem with Canada is... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2014 #9
The left and center-left majority split the vote, Harper wins Bragi Dec 2014 #13
With oil dropping below $60 I bet the Keystone XL tar oil isn't looking too good right now project_bluebook Dec 2014 #2
Had Jack Clayton Lived, He'd be A Mortal Lock in 2015 Hockey Dad Dec 2014 #8
and here is why the entire anglo saxon wiorld is screwed DonCoquixote Dec 2014 #11
True. Sigh. nt Bragi Dec 2014 #14
Only if every block in downtown Toronto became it's own riding Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2014 #12
Layton put Harper in power Bragi Dec 2014 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #17
I must be the densest DUer. Trillo Dec 2014 #10
You are correct, cheap oil is good for most of Canada Bragi Dec 2014 #16
Sales taxes are regressive. NT Trillo Dec 2014 #18

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
1. Canada, may I ask something
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:28 PM
Dec 2014

are you guys plannign to get this fool Harper out? I realize he did not do the damage W. did, but it seems he is trying VERY hard to do that. I say this because seeing Canada under Harper is like seeing a relative doing the same drugs you remember nearly killed you.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. Are you guys planning to get Republicans out of the House and Senate?
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:42 PM
Dec 2014

Yes, everybody that's even marginally leftist wants him out of office like a bad case of the plague. But he's basically a Republican, and as such has access to the corporate money-tree. The infection came north through the oil-patch, to which Harper is joined at the hip.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
5. Sorry I was brusque. Of course I know that.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:55 PM
Dec 2014

My point is that we have just as hard a time rooting out the oligarchy up here, and for many of the same reasons. It may be even harder in a way, because with a multi-party system and first-past-the-post electoral rules, he doesn't need anywhere near half the votes to win.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
6. I hear you
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:09 AM
Dec 2014

There were times I thought the US should consider the parliament, but it is obvious that the bad guys have learned to game that too. We may diasgree on things, but I do respect you, and offer supoort for the many canucks that are no doubt screaming, pull hair, emptying bottles and filling ashtrays over this idiot harper.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
9. The problem with Canada is...
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:15 AM
Dec 2014

The douchebags who vote for people like Ralph Nader have their own party and actively sabotage the Liberal party.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
13. The left and center-left majority split the vote, Harper wins
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:49 PM
Dec 2014

Harper is basically supported by about 1/3 of the voting public. The other 2/3 splits its votes between 3 parties. That's why we can't get rid of Harper, so far.

My hope is that centrist and center-left voters in Harper-held ridings in next election vote for whichever opposition party came second in their riding last time, so as to defeat Harper.

The two main opposition parties -- the LIbs and the NDP - can then sort it out when they get to Ottawa.

The most likely outcome would be a Liberal minority government, with the NDP supporting the Liberals.

I'm fine with that, as are most voters, according to polls. The problem is that Liberal and NDP hard core partisans hate each other. Many of them would rather see Harper stay in power than see the other opposition party form a government.

Sigh.

 

project_bluebook

(411 posts)
2. With oil dropping below $60 I bet the Keystone XL tar oil isn't looking too good right now
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 11:37 PM
Dec 2014

Maybe the Koch brother can pump Canadian whiskey instead.

 

Hockey Dad

(70 posts)
8. Had Jack Clayton Lived, He'd be A Mortal Lock in 2015
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:57 AM
Dec 2014

As it is, the latest polls show Justin Trudeau's Liberals with a small lead over Harper's Oil Uber Alles Party.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
11. and here is why the entire anglo saxon wiorld is screwed
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 03:21 AM
Dec 2014

whether it is due to parliamentary divides, or by fox stoked hate, or just good old fashioned class and race hate, the left is divided, the right united, so that means they can win with victories so small they are barley a majority.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
12. Only if every block in downtown Toronto became it's own riding
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:33 PM
Dec 2014

Layton was a flake, and he had more skeletons in the closet than an anthropology professor.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
15. Layton put Harper in power
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:57 PM
Dec 2014

He defeated the government of Paul Martin. He preferred to see Harper govern than the then-PM Martin.

Had he not done this, there never would have been an almost decade-long destructive power run Canada by Canada's current Tea Party government.

Layton put partisanship ahead of the best interests of the country. That's why I think he was an irresponsible and flawed leader.

Response to Bragi (Reply #15)

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
10. I must be the densest DUer.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:44 AM
Dec 2014

If oil is down, that means it costs less. Thus, anything that uses oil or energy will cost less, not more. Thus declining energy prices would seem to be an economic stimulus.

Is this sort of an admission that government was highly invested in oil futures, and took a beating as the price declined? They got caught long when they should have been short?

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
16. You are correct, cheap oil is good for most of Canada
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:01 PM
Dec 2014

It's only Alberta, home of our foreign-owned Big Oil sector and its Harper government, that really suffers when oil prices go down.

Sure, the federal treasury takes a bit of a hit (2.5 billion) but the real impact (9 billion plus) is on the Alberta government.

I weep not for Alberta. Just bring in a sales tax like every other province, and they could avoid cuts to social services. However, Big Oil and Alberta's conservative population hate sales taxes, and love cuts to social services, so that's their problem.

The rest of us will be fine with cheap oil and gas. We will be net beneficiaries. Too bad for you Alberta. Time for a sales tax?

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