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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:48 AM Dec 2014

Congress quietly ends federal government's ban on medical marijuana

Source: LAT

Tucked deep inside the 1,603-page federal spending measure is a provision that effectively ends the federal government's prohibition on medical marijuana and signals a major shift in drug policy.

The bill's passage over the weekend marks the first time Congress has approved nationally significant legislation backed by legalization advocates. It brings almost to a close two decades of tension between the states and Washington over medical use of marijuana.

Under the provision, states where medical pot is legal would no longer need to worry about federal drug agents raiding retail operations. Agents would be prohibited from doing so.

The Obama administration has largely followed that rule since last year as a matter of policy. But the measure approved as part of the spending bill, which President Obama plans to sign this week, will codify it as a matter of law.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-medical-pot-20141216-story.html

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Congress quietly ends federal government's ban on medical marijuana (Original Post) bemildred Dec 2014 OP
Let's hope that this cash crop that can bring so much medical relief to people can be grown midnight Dec 2014 #1
Here in Oregon organic is the standard for Medical Cannabis. Organic and lab tested. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #8
I'm so happy to hear that. And it is how it should be done for all medical cannabis. midnight Dec 2014 #13
There is no other way. Well, there is, but not for the best medicine. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #39
More consolation prize for the vote on rescinding the Dodd-Frank clause. ancianita Dec 2014 #2
I know how you feel. midnight Dec 2014 #14
Thanks. I feel like shit. I've been a political person for the long haul and now I'm depressed. ancianita Dec 2014 #17
consolation prize my ass. Volaris Dec 2014 #19
Your ass? Oh. So suddenly a blocked nominee and federal back-off on state legalized weed is good, ancianita Dec 2014 #21
we get stoned -- Wall St gets our money GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #22
Silver linings! yallerdawg Dec 2014 #3
Silver Linings Indeed, yallerdawg.. Cha Dec 2014 #6
The rest of the story. yallerdawg Dec 2014 #9
Thank you, yd.. Cha Dec 2014 #11
DEA Raids 2 Los Angeles Medical Marijuana Dispensaries (10-24-14) candelista Dec 2014 #4
Given the way law enforcement acts in this country JackInGreen Dec 2014 #16
"largely followed" "as a matter of policy". fbc Dec 2014 #27
bout damn time heaven05 Dec 2014 #5
It also bars the Feds from raiding hemp operations where legal. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #7
It's such good news and also provides insight into the strange ways of our Congress.... Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #10
Somehow, I doubt that Crusading U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag will get the message. NBachers Dec 2014 #12
Now if we can get rid of those SCVDem Dec 2014 #15
This. ^^^ -nt CrispyQ Dec 2014 #38
This might explain why my out of pocket cost for Concerta has went up 70% this morning. TRoN33 Dec 2014 #18
Will they release prisoners convicted of selling, growing, etc. medical marijuana Renew Deal Dec 2014 #20
Okay, what does this mean to states laws? And when does it take effect? And third who was the jwirr Dec 2014 #23
Dana Rohrabacher(R-CA) and Sam Farr (D-CA) co-sponsored Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #29
It doesn't change state laws. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #34
Thank you. I think my state of MN may actually do what Colorado did because with this new law on jwirr Dec 2014 #36
Good news, I suppose. SpankMe Dec 2014 #24
My congressman, Jarad Polis, has introduced legislation every year to remove mountain grammy Dec 2014 #25
So, we have one Kevin Yoder from Kansas to thank asiliveandbreathe Dec 2014 #26
So while the bank corps can continue to screw us over... Javaman Dec 2014 #28
too funny! asiliveandbreathe Dec 2014 #30
The provisions in this funding bill are just the beginning of what the Republicans sammy750 Dec 2014 #31
This is why I so rarely make a post on DU sunnystarr Dec 2014 #32
My posts drop like a stone all the time. bemildred Dec 2014 #33
Keep posting, Sunny. Sometimes they sink, sometimes they don't. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #35
I know what you mean. In solidarity riversedge Dec 2014 #37
no because congress moved, it's been years most are stunned and worried it's a trick Sunlei Dec 2014 #42
I have posted things that dropped like a rock Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #45
" I always get the feeling that you have to be in the right clique" < If one is fortunate jtuck004 Dec 2014 #46
To all who responded to my comment sunnystarr Dec 2014 #49
More money for banks to Politicalboi Dec 2014 #40
This didn't give any protection to the banks Ruby the Liberal Dec 2014 #41
do you have a link to the actual provision? There should be a name of what agency wrote the proposal Sunlei Dec 2014 #43
Nope. bemildred Dec 2014 #44
I have his list of bills he sponsored here-link, I can't find anything about MM Sunlei Dec 2014 #47
"Tucked deep inside the 1,603-page federal spending measure" nt bemildred Dec 2014 #48
Good! shanti Dec 2014 #50
Does it matter if it still a schedule 1 narc? Chakaconcarne Dec 2014 #51
All the while telling the good citizens of locks Dec 2014 #52

midnight

(26,624 posts)
1. Let's hope that this cash crop that can bring so much medical relief to people can be grown
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 09:56 AM
Dec 2014

organically.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. Here in Oregon organic is the standard for Medical Cannabis. Organic and lab tested.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:28 AM
Dec 2014

That's how it's done.

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
17. Thanks. I feel like shit. I've been a political person for the long haul and now I'm depressed.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:02 AM
Dec 2014

At the secret

compromises
deals
drawn up scenarios to whip partisan attention, fear and futile action
sellouts of law, from the Constitution down to police due force.

I want to join the "Shut It Down" crowd now.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
19. consolation prize my ass.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:08 AM
Dec 2014

Phillip Morris, Phizer and Monsanto want to legally play with the same good toys as the REAL people.
It WILL happen, that the only legal cannabis will be what THEY sell you.

ancianita

(36,060 posts)
21. Your ass? Oh. So suddenly a blocked nominee and federal back-off on state legalized weed is good,
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:26 AM
Dec 2014

smart deal cutting that has nothing at all to do with the banks getting a change in Dodd-Frank. Thanks for that cold splash in the face! I damned well get all that. I'm talking about the timings of the issues we've been bitching about for so long.

That, and the party infiltrations I've just been learning about. Don't bother explaining that, either. I do my homework.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. Silver linings!
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:01 AM
Dec 2014

While we Democrats focus on a couple paragraphs and a couple pages, we are missing the forest for the tree!

There are gems hidden in these 1,600 pages -- this budget is gold compared to the 2015 Ryan budget sent to the Senate from the House. Democrats kicked ass!

As usual, we fail to tell the people the positives, and focus on our losses. Who wants to vote for losers?

Cha

(297,275 posts)
6. Silver Linings Indeed, yallerdawg..
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:12 AM
Dec 2014
Did cromnibus kill Wall Street reform? (updated)

Now...if all you care about is sticking it to Wall Street, the current battle among Democrats over this bill might be worth having. But - if you also care about enforcing the critical aspects of Wall Street reform, Obamacare, the President's actions on immigration, early childhood education, climate change, job growth, and national security - all this hysteria is simply a distraction.

snip//

UPDATE: I just learned that the "push-out" rule that is eliminated in the cromnibus was the brainchild of former Senator Blanche Lincoln. So excuse me if I'm a little skeptical about how important it is. Apparently it doesn't affect all derivative swaps - not even most of them.

In brief, the Pushout required federally insured banks to move-“push out”-some swaps dealing activities to separate subsidiaries that do not have access to federal deposit insurance. This does not apply to all swaps, mind you. Not even to the bulk of them (interest rate swaps, many CDS). But just to commodity derivatives (other than gold), equity derivatives, and un-cleared CDS.

MOre..
http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2014/12/did-cromnibus-kill-wall-street-reform.html

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. The rest of the story.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:31 AM
Dec 2014

After Elizabeth Warren made her epic speech on the floor - which I saw as a tirade against too-big-to-fail and Congress's failure to ever do anything about that - Senator Barbara Mikulski explained exactly how this rider was limited to some reasonable concessions. But you should have seen the 6 other riders attached! Mikulski pointed out not only did her subcommittee eliminate the other riders, but the Republicans agreed to increased funding for the Federal agencies responsible for watching this one concession.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
4. DEA Raids 2 Los Angeles Medical Marijuana Dispensaries (10-24-14)
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:05 AM
Dec 2014
LOS ANGELES -- Agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration raided two legal medical marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles on Thursday that, according to multiple staff members, were fully compliant with state laws.

The Department of Justice confirmed to The Huffington Post after the raid that it was executing a search warrant on The Farmacy dispensary in Los Angeles, but said the warrant was under seal and it could not comment further.

Beginning around 10:30 a.m. Thursday morning, several DEA agents raided two dispensary locations of LA-based The Farmacy dispensary, one in West Hollywood and the other in Westwood, taking money, cannabis and computers in the process. Staff members at the West Hollywood location said there were no arrests made at either shop. It remains unclear how much money and cannabis was seized during the operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/24/dea-raid-medical-marijuana-los-angeles_n_6038926.html

This was seven weeks ago. WTF?

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
16. Given the way law enforcement acts in this country
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:53 AM
Dec 2014

do you really think that they'd be stopped if they could take the time and resources off the book? I don't mean, like, an authorized behind the scenes thing, but they don't see any accountability anyway, so who's to stop them?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. It's such good news and also provides insight into the strange ways of our Congress....
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:32 AM
Dec 2014

This provision, once highly controversial, sailed by unnoticed by most and very interestingly with most of the strong proponents of this provision and other cannabis reforms voting against it, because they were against the larger bill. Byzantine. Convoluted. Strange ways and oddball means.
It is a lesson of some sort.

NBachers

(17,117 posts)
12. Somehow, I doubt that Crusading U.S. Attorney Melinda Haag will get the message.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:38 AM
Dec 2014

Maybe we need to let her know:

Melinda L Haag, U.S. Attorney
450 Golden Gate Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94102
(415) 436-7200
Melinda.Haag@usdoj.gov



Facebook's Fire Melinda Haag page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/FIRE-Melinda-Haag/280777645334358

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
18. This might explain why my out of pocket cost for Concerta has went up 70% this morning.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:07 AM
Dec 2014

Big Pharma must be real pissed and want to punish people who support medical marijuana by rise the cost of medications.

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
20. Will they release prisoners convicted of selling, growing, etc. medical marijuana
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:21 AM
Dec 2014

that was otherwise legal?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
23. Okay, what does this mean to states laws? And when does it take effect? And third who was the
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:52 AM
Dec 2014

darling who tucked that in? Whoever, thank you.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
34. It doesn't change state laws.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:48 PM
Dec 2014

But it means that the feds generally aren't going to interfere in states where medical marijuana is legal.

That may encourage other states to get on the bandwagon.

It should go into effect with the new fiscal year. July 1?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
36. Thank you. I think my state of MN may actually do what Colorado did because with this new law on
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 03:18 PM
Dec 2014

medical MJ and the Supreme Court's ruling on use and growing on reservations it makes sense to finally legalize it.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
24. Good news, I suppose.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 11:56 AM
Dec 2014

But, they really need to take MJ off of the federal schedule. Alcohol isn't a scheduled substance, and yet affects the brain more than pot and is more responsible for more accidents and crimes than MJ would be if MJ was legal like alcohol is.

I'm not a pot smoker - I'm not interested in it, plus my job would prohibit me from using it, even of it were legal. But, I recognize how useless and destructive the criminalization of it is.

mountain grammy

(26,622 posts)
25. My congressman, Jarad Polis, has introduced legislation every year to remove
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:03 PM
Dec 2014

marijuana from the federal schedule. Of course, Congress is way to busy passing anti woman's rights bills to take up anything else.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
26. So, we have one Kevin Yoder from Kansas to thank
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:29 PM
Dec 2014

for the language - almost word for word from Citigroup - we, the tax payers will bail out the banks when their bets go south - once again - but in the words of many - don't pay any attention to the man behind removing regulations put in place by Dodd-Frank!

Yep folks...we all live in Kansas now!

I would hope the President would apply a statement, regarding this deregulation, to this abomination in the spending bill.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
28. So while the bank corps can continue to screw us over...
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 12:48 PM
Dec 2014

we can at least smoke a joint and distress about it.

I guess that's something.

sammy750

(165 posts)
31. The provisions in this funding bill are just the beginning of what the Republicans
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 01:08 PM
Dec 2014

will be doing the next 2 years. They will most likely destroy the USA and people with bills they pass. The GOP is really our Taliban. We see the mass killing of school kids trying to get an education. Well The GOP don't want an educated population. They get their votes from the dumbest and most uneducated, not the smart voters. So education is a hinderance to the GOP.

sunnystarr

(2,638 posts)
32. This is why I so rarely make a post on DU
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:05 PM
Dec 2014

and stick to replying once in a while. I posted this story late yesterday afternoon and it hardly got a nod or notice - for what I considered to be groundbreaking and a long time coming. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251390589
At least I can be assured that someone else will always get the story out here. Somehow I always get the feeling that you have to be in the right clique for anyone to bother reading what you post.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
33. My posts drop like a stone all the time.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:42 PM
Dec 2014

You just never know.

The one thing I will say is you get more attention when you post in mornings or evenings than when you post other parts of the day, for obvious reasons.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
45. I have posted things that dropped like a rock
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:42 PM
Dec 2014

and then, a few days later, updated them, posted again, & got 90 recs. Sometimes you begin to suspect that behind all this caprice there's a random number generator that decides these things behind the scenes.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
46. " I always get the feeling that you have to be in the right clique" < If one is fortunate
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:46 PM
Dec 2014

they can avoid them entirely. One's perspective, and sometimes freedom, is almost always enhanced by distance.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
40. More money for banks to
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:04 PM
Dec 2014

Gamble with. Now shops will be able to transfer money to banks, but will it be there? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
41. This didn't give any protection to the banks
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:17 PM
Dec 2014

in order to do business with anyone in the MMJ industry without risking huge fines and potential shutdowns. Until that happens, no accounts will be opened by any bank that is under OCC oversight.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
43. do you have a link to the actual provision? There should be a name of what agency wrote the proposal
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:32 PM
Dec 2014

to the congress member to ask for the provision. I'd like to see who lobbied the congress member for the provision endorsement.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
50. Good!
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 07:57 PM
Dec 2014

Now maybe all of the dispensaries that were closed after 2011 in Sacramento County will open again! We used to have a bunch then, but they shut down in fear of forfeiture. Now ther are but a handful.

Chakaconcarne

(2,453 posts)
51. Does it matter if it still a schedule 1 narc?
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014

And/ or is this just to appear as if they are going more mainstream?

locks

(2,012 posts)
52. All the while telling the good citizens of
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 10:53 PM
Dec 2014

the District of Columbia that they aren't wise enough to use local control to legalize marijuana.

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