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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 12:52 AM Dec 2014

Rand Paul: Jeb Bush’s Common Core support would be ‘big problem’ in primary

Source: WaPo

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) fired a warning shot on education at Jeb Bush (R) Tuesday evening, saying the former Florida governor's support for Common Core education standards would be a "big problem" for him among conservatives in a Republican primary.

"I think most conservative Republicans think that education should be more at the local and state level. So yeah, I think it will be a big problem," Paul told The Washington Post in a brief interview in the Capitol.

Bush announced Tuesday morning that he has decided to "actively explore" a run for the presidency. Paul may also run. The senator's reaction to Bush's news: "I think the more the merrier."

"I think we've got a big party," he continued. "I think we have people from all different wings of the party."

Bush has been an outspoken supporter of Common Core, which is basically a national set of education standards in math and English most states have adopted.

Many conservatives, including Paul, oppose it. Even some previous Common Core champions have turned against it.

Bush offered a nuanced defense of Common Core last month, with advice for those who want a different set of standards.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/12/16/rand-paul-jeb-bushs-common-core-support-would-be-big-problem-in-primary/



And from Breitbart:
Jeb Bush’s recent announcement that he will “explore” a presidential run in 2016 has led Time to pronounce the “one issue that will complicate his campaign” is Common Core.
“Common Core now represents a kind of shorthand among Republicans,” writes Haley Sweetland Edwards. “If you’re a real conservative, you’re against it; if you’re a faker, you’re for it.”
The problem for Bush, as Time sees it, is that he loves Common Core, and the Republican base hates it.
As Breitbart News observed in June, while Bush attended an Ohio fundraiser, Ohioans Against Common Core activists were on hand to #StopJebNow, pointing out that the Republican National Committee had passed resolutions rejecting the Common Core standards initiative.
Additionally, this past year saw some Republicans, including Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Maine Gov. Paul LePage, Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin, and Louisiana U.S. Sen. David Vitter reversing their support for the controversial education reform initiative; while others, like Tennessee U.S. Sen. Lamar Alexander avoided the topic altogether like the plague.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/12/16/Time-Common-Core-the-One-Issue-To-Complicate-Jeb-Bush-s-Campaign
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Rand Paul: Jeb Bush’s Common Core support would be ‘big problem’ in primary (Original Post) ErikJ Dec 2014 OP
I am against Common Core bluestateguy Dec 2014 #1
Gotta wonder though, why are todays kids so stupid. ErikJ Dec 2014 #3
"The kids today" are doing fine Recursion Dec 2014 #6
That's nice, but compared to everyone else... bobclark86 Dec 2014 #7
China submits about 2% of their students to international comparison exams Recursion Dec 2014 #8
The spread is very small between us and the leading countries. joshcryer Dec 2014 #9
we also d_r Dec 2014 #12
why FERPA? d_r Dec 2014 #11
Overcoming the legacy of Jeb's brother will be a bigger problem for him. olddad56 Dec 2014 #2
The GOP is fighting among themselves already! Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2014 #4
I hate Common Core! My kids aren't getting anything out of it. Luckily my son is almost done with mackerel Dec 2014 #5
Too bad a few ignorant and deceptive "progressives" Android3.14 Dec 2014 #10
Not too much that I agree with Rand Paul on, but he's right about this woodsprite Dec 2014 #13
Breitbart? oberliner Dec 2014 #14

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. I am against Common Core
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:22 AM
Dec 2014

As a general rule I oppose top-down mandates from Washington DC upon local public schools.

And that goes for a lot of other policies, not just Common Core. I'm against NCLB, Race to the Top and FERPA.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
3. Gotta wonder though, why are todays kids so stupid.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:33 AM
Dec 2014

Most wouldnt even be able to tell you when or who won the Civil War. Or who the VP is or find the US on a world map. We truly are becoming an idiocracy.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. "The kids today" are doing fine
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 04:05 AM
Dec 2014

Every generation is convinced that this generation of kids are falling behind, but every time we do NEAP scores keep creeping up.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
7. That's nice, but compared to everyone else...
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 04:49 AM
Dec 2014

We're on the short bus.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/us-students-lag-around-average-on-international-science-math-and-reading-test/2013/12/02/2e510f26-5b92-11e3-a49b-90a0e156254b_story.html

By Lyndsey Layton December 3, 2013
Scores in math, reading and science posted by 15-year-olds in the United States were flat while their counterparts elsewhere — particularly in Shanghai, Singapore and other Asian provinces or countries — soared, according to the results of a well-regarded international exam released Tuesday.

While U.S. teenagers were average in reading and science, their scores were below average in math, compared to 64 other countries and economies that participated in the 2012 Program for International Student Assessment, or PISA. That pattern has not changed much since the PISA test was first given in 2000.

“Our scores are stagnant. We’re not seeing any improvement for our 15-year-olds,” said Jack Buckley, commissioner at the National Center for Education Statistics, the research arm of the Education Department. “But our ranking is slipping because a lot of these other countries are improving.”


Maybe the old system of 50 different standards and thousands of variations isn't doing it right? Nah, we're 'Murica!

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. China submits about 2% of their students to international comparison exams
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 04:53 AM
Dec 2014

If we were testing Sidwell Friends and Phillips Exeter, whereas NEAP tests a broad sample of the whole country.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
9. The spread is very small between us and the leading countries.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 06:51 AM
Dec 2014

Any meta analysis would show you that.

The US has actually progressed far better than any other country as far as underprivileged children go.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
12. we also
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:26 AM
Dec 2014

have a much wider discrepancy in the experiences of children from different SES groups, and a tragically high number of children living in poverty.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
5. I hate Common Core! My kids aren't getting anything out of it. Luckily my son is almost done with
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 01:53 AM
Dec 2014

high school.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
10. Too bad a few ignorant and deceptive "progressives"
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 07:04 AM
Dec 2014

Bought into the right-wing silliness. It is such an obvious right-wing attempt to keep the masses stupid and compliant and push religion back into the classroom.

Let's see if the usual suspects try to roll out the standard GOP blather and misinformation, or if they provide actual arguments that they back up with facts.

woodsprite

(11,913 posts)
13. Not too much that I agree with Rand Paul on, but he's right about this
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:35 AM
Dec 2014

AND disgust for "common core" crosses party lines! Jeb could be the 'uniter'.

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