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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:21 PM Dec 2014

U.S. Officials: North Korea Behind Sony Hack

Source: WLTX

WASHINGTON - U.S. authorities have determined that North Korea is behind the recent cyber attack on Sony Pictures, a federal law enforcement official said Wednesday.

The official, who is not authorized to comment publicly, said a formal announcement of attribution by the U.S. government could come as soon as Thursday.

U.S. investigators had been moving quickly toward a determination in recent days, indicating earlier this week that attribution was imminent.

Addressing the matter last week, FBI Director James Comey said that the attack was very "complicated'' and that "before we make an attribution that we have high confidence in it.''

Read more: http://www.wltx.com/story/entertainment/movies/2014/12/17/us-officials-north-korea-behind-sony-hack/20562005/

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U.S. Officials: North Korea Behind Sony Hack (Original Post) Bosonic Dec 2014 OP
Lol...Dictatorship Vs Oligarchy Epic~! Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #1
What I tell people about their naivety towards the Internet & E-mail usage ffr Dec 2014 #2
How folks working at their offices do not realize email is a permanent record of their written Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #9
If N. Korea made a movie making fun of assassinating an American President America might want Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #3
The British already did a film about that.... Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #7
Was it a mocking comedy that treated Bush like a clown and less than human? Although on second Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #8
who owns Sony besides the Japanese? heaven05 Dec 2014 #4
Google the Ainu. nt Thor_MN Dec 2014 #5
The Actual Interview... xocet Dec 2014 #6
I find it hard to believe. elias49 Dec 2014 #10
Actually they do davidpdx Dec 2014 #11
With China's help? fryguy Dec 2014 #18
The fact that the lying liars in our lying-ass government...... DeSwiss Dec 2014 #19
DPRK's Response: Kablooie Dec 2014 #12
How does this happen to Sony? With all the excellent security systems and knowledge, these stories whereisjustice Dec 2014 #13
The FBI made this statement melm00se Dec 2014 #14
unfortunately, the largely political FBI is the least trustworthy source for any analysis about this whereisjustice Dec 2014 #15
Maybe we should ask RT to get on the case! snooper2 Dec 2014 #22
The FBI. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #20
You would be surprised by the lack of security controls at large companies snooper2 Dec 2014 #17
I'm waiting for Fox News to say that Cuba was behind the hack. Kablooie Dec 2014 #16
Journalism is DEAD. DeSwiss Dec 2014 #21

ffr

(22,670 posts)
2. What I tell people about their naivety towards the Internet & E-mail usage
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:26 PM
Dec 2014

It's a dangerous place if you don't know what you are doing.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. How folks working at their offices do not realize email is a permanent record of their written
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:19 PM
Dec 2014

thoughts and inherently insecure, and should be used accordingly is......puzzling.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. If N. Korea made a movie making fun of assassinating an American President America might want
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:35 PM
Dec 2014

to hack the studio also.

Why is some blame not being cast at Sony for their weak security system...you would think all the racist there would at least want to be very secure before displaying and sharing their bigotry by email.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. The British already did a film about that....
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:14 PM
Dec 2014

Death of a President is a 2006 British high concept mockumentary political thriller film about the fictional assassination of George W. Bush, the 43rd U.S. President, on 19 October 2007 in Chicago, Illinois.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_%282006_film%29

America yawned.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. Was it a mocking comedy that treated Bush like a clown and less than human? Although on second
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:15 PM
Dec 2014

thought that would make it a documentary.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. who owns Sony besides the Japanese?
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:45 PM
Dec 2014

and I didn't know they were that racist......toward brown people....

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
10. I find it hard to believe.
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:37 PM
Dec 2014

I don't think the North has the juice. Cyber-warriors? Seriously?
Don't they still parade 20th century tanks down their Main St to bluster?
'Anonymous' might have the skills to "hack" into Sony, but DPRK?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
11. Actually they do
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:47 PM
Dec 2014

There have been numerous articles about the resources North Korea has put in to computer hacking. Several times they have hacked into the computers of South Korean banks, so this is not the first time it's happened.

fryguy

(3,911 posts)
18. With China's help?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:50 PM
Dec 2014

Besides, while the general population lives in 19th Century conditions, plenty of money and resources do get sent to the elites and party favorites so it is likely, with China's help perhaps, that they've been able to put together the technology and intellect to carry out the hack.

But it also says something about Sony's lack of cyber protection that the Hermit Kingdom could infiltrate their network.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
19. The fact that the lying liars in our lying-ass government......
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:17 PM
Dec 2014

...said North Korea did it is prima facie evidence in my world that they're lying thorough their goddamned teeth.

- As usual.

WIRED: The Evidence That North Korea Hacked Sony Is Flimsy


"Every government is run by liars and nothing they say should be believed." ~I.F. Stone

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
12. DPRK's Response:
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:49 PM
Dec 2014

DPRK News Service @DPRK_News

Heroes force Japanese cinema bandits to bow before indomitable fist of Korean people.
10,000 years of life to Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un!

2:51 PM - 17 Dec 2014

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
13. How does this happen to Sony? With all the excellent security systems and knowledge, these stories
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:26 AM
Dec 2014

are inconceivable to me. Sony should have the best systems and staff available to prevent something like this.

melm00se

(4,993 posts)
14. The FBI made this statement
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 09:10 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.itproportal.com/2014/12/11/fbi-gop-attack-beat-90-per-cent-defences/

"...only a handful of companies could have defended themselves from the attack that devastated Sony pictures recently.

The malware that was used would have gotten past 90 per cent of the net defences that are out there today in private industry and likely to challenge even state government"

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
20. The FBI.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:22 PM
Dec 2014

The same people who couldn't find a criminal to prosecute in all the Wall Street frauds of the past two decades leaving a corrupt and bankrupt nation in its wake that has become our lives? That FBI?

But they know who broke into Sony?

These assholes are nothing more than the Americanized version of a certain central European political party from the 1920s and 30s who had armed-gunmen enforcing their political policy.

- Their name eludes me right now......

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. You would be surprised by the lack of security controls at large companies
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:23 PM
Dec 2014

They probably are looking back at this website as we speak and are talking to consultants

https://www.sans.org/critical-security-controls/

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
21. Journalism is DEAD.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:49 PM
Dec 2014
- These ''news sources'' are the same ones that cheer-lead us into Iraq.

*snip*

Attribution Is Difficult If Not Impossible

First off, we have to say that attribution in breaches is difficult. Assertions about who is behind any attack should be treated with a hefty dose of skepticism. Skilled hackers use proxy machines and false IP addresses to cover their tracks or plant false clues inside their malware to throw investigators off their trail. When hackers are identified and apprehended, it’s generally because they’ve made mistakes or because a cohort got arrested and turned informant.

Nation-state attacks often can be distinguished by their level of sophistication and modus operandi, but attribution is no less difficult. It’s easy for attackers to plant false flags that point to North Korea or another nation as the culprit. And even when an attack appears to be nation-state, it can be difficult to know if the hackers are mercenaries acting alone or with state sponsorship—some hackers work freelance and get paid by a state only when they get access to an important system or useful intelligence; others work directly for a state or military. Then there are hacktivists, who can be confused with state actors because their geopolitical interests and motives jibe with a state’s interests.

Distinguishing between all of these can be impossible unless you’re an intelligence agency like the NSA {my emphasis}, with vast reach into computers around the world, and can uncover evidence about attribution in ways that law enforcement agents legally cannot. So let’s look at what’s known.

Sony and FBI Deny Connection to North Korea

First of all, Sony and the FBI have announced that they’ve found no evidence so far to tie North Korea to the attack. New reports, however, indicate that intelligence officials who are not permitted to speak on the record have concluded that the North Koreans are behind the hack. But they have provided no evidence to support this and without knowing even what agency the officials belong to, it’s difficult to know what to make of the claim. And we should point out that intelligence agencies and government officials have jumped to hasty conclusions or misled the public in the past because it was politically expedient.

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