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mia

(8,361 posts)
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 11:38 PM Dec 2014

Cubans in Havana on a welcome surprise: ‘This is going to help us – how could it not?’

Source: The Guardian

...The reading room of Cuba’s National Archive is normally a place of monastic calm, where academics and researchers leaf through aged volumes among card files and dusty stacks.

On Wednesday, however, the customary silence was punctuated with cheers and applause as the readers gathered around a small TV to watch president Raúl Castro announce the news that many had been waiting to hear all their lives: the planned restoration of diplomatic relations with the country’s neighbour and long-time ideological foe....

“There’s a lot of happiness on the street,” said Jorge Martínez, 45, one of a group of builders on a break....

“This is exactly the right thing, what we all have been waiting for,” said Máximo who only gave his first name. “More tourists will come, more US companies, maybe Havana will be full of boats from Miami one day.”


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/17/cubans-havana-welcome-surprise-castro-obama

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Cubans in Havana on a welcome surprise: ‘This is going to help us – how could it not?’ (Original Post) mia Dec 2014 OP
The US's travel ban on Americans hasn't been lifted. Mika Dec 2014 #1
yes, but the new hotels and casinos are on the horizon Baclava Dec 2014 #3
The Canadian and European hotel companies have the place pretty much filled out with hotels. Mika Dec 2014 #4
so the Canadian mob runs their casinos? Baclava Dec 2014 #7
Too late ... Mika Dec 2014 #8
I don't smoke cigars, is there any other reason for me to go there? Baclava Dec 2014 #9
"Cuba isn't isolated. America has isolated itself from Cuba.".. riversedge Dec 2014 #18
Great images. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #30
Not really. I have had offers from seveal travel companies fro trips to Cuba. CTyankee Dec 2014 #38
there is a connection -- Montreal and Havana have significant Mafia presence GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #34
Toronto, as well. I once had dinner at a high-end steak place called Sixty By The Bay. Aristus Dec 2014 #37
And, now President Obama is getting us back.. I love it! Cha Dec 2014 #11
Welll -- be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. I understand Nay Dec 2014 #2
Cubans are WELL versed in the dangers of US imperialism and corporatism. Mika Dec 2014 #5
I am not worried about those Cubans living in Cuba MyNameGoesHere Dec 2014 #31
ask Libya how it could not. yurbud Dec 2014 #6
Gracias mia! I'm so happy for the Cuban people! Cha Dec 2014 #10
Same here Cha. lovemydog Dec 2014 #15
That would be grand if you get to visit, lovemydog! Cha Dec 2014 #16
They'll visit Hawaii too my friend. lovemydog Dec 2014 #17
That's right.. got to see that 5-0! And, I'm always meeting people from other countries.. just Cha Dec 2014 #19
Nice. lovemydog Dec 2014 #20
That's so nice! This man ask me what that "green stuff was I was drinking".. told him Wheatgrass Cha Dec 2014 #24
Oh, if he's tries it he's gonna love the wheatgrass. lovemydog Dec 2014 #25
Ah, someone else who appreciates the merits of wheatgrass juice! Cha Dec 2014 #27
Oh hell yeah. lovemydog Dec 2014 #29
great news for hookers quadrature Dec 2014 #12
"hookers".. you had to go there. Cha Dec 2014 #21
talk about seeing the worst possible angle.... steve2470 Dec 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2014 #13
Absolutely great news. lovemydog Dec 2014 #14
Viva Cuba! That's what I've been saying to myself all day.. lol Cha Dec 2014 #22
I'd bust out a beret and cigar lovemydog Dec 2014 #23
I've been listening to Cuban musica all night.. Cha Dec 2014 #26
Sweet. I'll try that tomorrow. lovemydog Dec 2014 #28
"Buena Vista Social Club" maybe? nt brush Dec 2014 #33
I was so pleased to hear this. About 50 years later, times have changed, many have now RKP5637 Dec 2014 #32
Won't you pour me a Cuban breeze Gretchen - n/t Locrian Dec 2014 #35
Everybody Loves President Obama's New Cuba Policy mia Dec 2014 #39
 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
1. The US's travel ban on Americans hasn't been lifted.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:00 AM
Dec 2014

So all of the elation over American tourism in Cuba is for naught.

As for now.


 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
4. The Canadian and European hotel companies have the place pretty much filled out with hotels.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:02 AM
Dec 2014

Cuba isn't cut off from the world. America has cut itself off from Cuba.


 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
7. so the Canadian mob runs their casinos?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:27 AM
Dec 2014

those bastards

send in the cruise ships - we'll show them how its done



 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
9. I don't smoke cigars, is there any other reason for me to go there?
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 02:03 AM
Dec 2014

I know if you have the money you can do what you want




7 nights 6 fishing days, $1990 EUROS PER ANGLER

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
34. there is a connection -- Montreal and Havana have significant Mafia presence
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 10:06 AM
Dec 2014
Secret wire taps capture some of that revenge plot as the former Montreal godfather summoned some of his top henchmen to secret meetings in the Dominican Republic and Cuba to plan his revenge.


http://aboutthemafia.com/tag/montreal-mafia-news-2014

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
37. Toronto, as well. I once had dinner at a high-end steak place called Sixty By The Bay.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 04:09 PM
Dec 2014

It seemed like every goodfella and his moll in Canada were there...

Nay

(12,051 posts)
2. Welll -- be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. I understand
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 12:27 AM
Dec 2014

and agree that Cuba shouldn't be embargoed anymore, but unless Cuba is clear-eyed about how it allows development, they'll end up being what they were before Castro -- a Mafia-run corporate whorehouse and slave auction. They'll have to move to protect their island's beauty, cuz no investors will give a shit about it.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
5. Cubans are WELL versed in the dangers of US imperialism and corporatism.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 01:04 AM
Dec 2014

Any development will happen on their terms. Cubans are educated well, and they value their sovereignty.




 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
31. I am not worried about those Cubans living in Cuba
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:44 AM
Dec 2014

understanding how the US corporations want to enslave them again. I worry about that Miami bunch that have been hanging around with the repiglicants. They will have too much influence.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
15. Same here Cha.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:33 AM
Dec 2014

I want to visit there some day. I also would like to meet people from Cuba visiting here!

Cha

(297,322 posts)
19. That's right.. got to see that 5-0! And, I'm always meeting people from other countries.. just
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:02 AM
Dec 2014

hangin' out. Meet some people from Denmark last week.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
20. Nice.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:07 AM
Dec 2014

I'm dating someone from Copenhagen. She told me they have free college. Wow. I asked her how they accomplish it and she said they don't spend as much on military. Now that's what I'd love to see more of here!

Cha

(297,322 posts)
24. That's so nice! This man ask me what that "green stuff was I was drinking".. told him Wheatgrass
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:13 AM
Dec 2014

juice and he'd never heard of it.. I ask him where he was from?

And, we toasted .. him with his coffee and me with mine.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
25. Oh, if he's tries it he's gonna love the wheatgrass.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 06:15 AM
Dec 2014

It's so good and good for you!

Hey, we ought to start a wheatgrass juice stand in Copenhagen!

Response to mia (Original post)

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
14. Absolutely great news.
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 05:32 AM
Dec 2014

Unqualified improvement of many lives.

Restoration of diplomatic relations.

I hoped I would see this in my lifetime.

Thanks to President Obama and his Administration.

Viva Cuba. They have an amazing history and a lot of really great people.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
32. I was so pleased to hear this. About 50 years later, times have changed, many have now
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 07:49 AM
Dec 2014

died off since those times, IMO it's a new world now. I'm glad to see Obama's move to restore relations. IMO it's time to move forward, it's whole new generations of people now.

mia

(8,361 posts)
39. Everybody Loves President Obama's New Cuba Policy
Thu Dec 18, 2014, 11:33 PM
Dec 2014
http://cubanow.us/blog/everybody_loves_president_obamas_new_cuba_policy/


AP: Cubans Cheered Announcement Of Normalized Relations With The U.S.: “This Opens A Better Future For Us.” “Cubans cheered the surprise announcement that their country will restore relations with the U.S., hopeful they'll soon see expanded trade and new economic vibrancy even though the 53-year-old economic embargo remains in place for the time being. ‘This opens a better future for us,’ said Milagros Diaz, 34. ‘We have really needed something like this because the situation has been bad and the people very discouraged.’ Bells tolled in celebration and teachers halted lessons midday as President Raul Castro told his country Wednesday that Cuba would renew relations with Washington after more than a half-century of hostility.” [AP, “In Cuba: Cubans’ hopes high for a better future,” 12/18/14]

Reuters Headline: “Florida’s Cuban Americans Rejoice At U.S. Policy Overhaul.” “Some Cuban exiles rejoiced at the prospect of easier access to their relatives. Some swelled with guarded optimism over the prospect of thawing relations between the United States and the communist island. And some were simply ‘ecstatic.’ News on Wednesday that the United States will restore full diplomatic relations with Cuba and open an embassy in Havana for the first time in more than a half century rippled through the 1.5-million-strong exile community in the United States, many of them lifelong opponents of communist rule.” [Reuters, “Florida’s Cuban Americans rejoice at U.S. policy overhaul,” 12/17/14]

CBS: Cubans Celebrating In The Street At The Announcement Of Changes To U.S.-Cuba Relations. “People are waking up to a new sort of reality after sweeping changes to U.S.-Cuba relations were finally made public. The talks had been kept a secret for 18 months, and when Raul Castro announced it to his people at the same time President Obama spoke in the United States, nearly everyone was watching. At first, there was silence, but that soon turned to joy. People broke out in song and dance to celebrate the news. Church bells rang, and cars and motorcycles honked their horns as they drove through the streets. Although it's still far too early for people to feel any sort of impact, there's a sense that this can only be a good thing.” [CBS This Morning, “Cuba, U.S. make way for new reality as citizens celebrate in street,” 12/18/14]

Cuban Exile: “All I Would Want Is To Not Have To Ask Permission From Anybody.” “Behind the bar, Juan Carlos Rodriguez, a soft-spoken construction worker who fled Cuba 20 years ago, said he had heard the radio earlier in the day but was mostly reserving judgment. ‘I have to see more news,’ he said in Spanish. But Rodriguez would be happy if the announcement results in eased travel restrictions for Cuban exiles, as it almost certainly will. ‘All I would want,’ he said before tucking into a huge plate of rice, beans, and filleted fish, ‘is to not have to ask permission from anybody.’” [Miami New Times, “In Hialeah, Miami’s True Cuban Heart, A Muted Reaction to Obama’s Thaw With Castro,” 12/18/14]
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