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Omaha Steve

(99,789 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:03 PM Dec 2014

Obama: Longest war in US history is ending

Source: AP-Excite

By JOSH LEDERMAN

HONOLULU (AP) — President Barack Obama says the longest war in American history is coming to a responsible conclusion.

Obama is welcoming the end of U.S. combat operations in Afghanistan. The war came to a formal end Sunday with a ceremony in Kabul.

Obama says in a statement that the effort has devastated al-Qaida's core leadership, brought justice to Osama bin Laden and disrupted terrorist plots. He says U.S. troops and diplomats have helped Afghans reclaim their communities and move toward democracy.

FULL short story at link.



Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141228/us-obama-afghanistan-67ee0f28f6.html




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Obama: Longest war in US history is ending (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP
BULLSHIT!!!! there will still be up to 10,000 troops left behind bigdarryl Dec 2014 #1
My thoughts exactly. Paper Roses Dec 2014 #5
You are making Dems look dumb with this. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #7
there are thousands of troops in Japan but we are not at war with Japan uhnope Dec 2014 #14
LOL m-lekktor Dec 2014 #15
how articulate uhnope Dec 2014 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author neverforget Dec 2014 #19
But we'll still be there "training" them. That's a long-ass training period! arcane1 Dec 2014 #2
Except for: dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #4
An old post of mine re: Afghanistan (by Ken Kesey) CountAllVotes Dec 2014 #6
BS cosmicone Dec 2014 #9
Show me the peace treaty or document of surrender. Absent that, it's not over and saying it is just 24601 Dec 2014 #8
Afghanistan Leviosa rug Dec 2014 #10
Our *bipartisan* foreign policy is eternal warfare. Joe Magarac Dec 2014 #11
At least it sounds better than any plan that would have been implemented by SoapBox Dec 2014 #12
I am grateful for this uhnope Dec 2014 #13
I'm glad it's winding down from our standpoint, but I have doubts about the other Doctor_J Dec 2014 #17
Obama is ending the war on terror? Ramses Dec 2014 #18
War on Cancer? War on Poverty? War on Drugs? They are are all older than the War on Terror. bananas Dec 2014 #21
this is great news Ramses Dec 2014 #22
And those whose personal fondness for the president trumps everything else Doctor_J Dec 2014 #24
It wil not end until ALL the troops are pulled out. former9thward Dec 2014 #20
Good, I for one appreciate that the President is winding down the bloody long tragic war in Cha Dec 2014 #23

Paper Roses

(7,475 posts)
5. My thoughts exactly.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:21 PM
Dec 2014

It ends only when there are no troops left to carry on this horrible war.
Support? Strange word, I guess it is up to us to interpret this description.

This old timer is tired of all of our intervention, any time, anywhere. One after another of fruitless and devastating war, action, intervention, support, ad infinitum.

Did we not intervene in Vietnam as 'support'? Look where that and other 'support' got us.

Phooey, these billions need to be spent at home, not in some land where out interest is more for the wallet than anything else.

My thoughts only.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
14. there are thousands of troops in Japan but we are not at war with Japan
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:23 PM
Dec 2014

there are countless other examples.

Response to uhnope (Reply #14)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Except for:
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:13 PM
Dec 2014
Pentagon will call new US mission in Afghanistan 'Operation Freedom's Sentinel;' mission will involve counterterrorism and training, advising, assisting Afghans

I screeed about it just a few minutes ago.

We never left Iraq, we will never leave AfghaniNam, we are parked neatly all over the globe, and will not leave till the last red hot dime of our money is gone.

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
6. An old post of mine re: Afghanistan (by Ken Kesey)
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:58 PM
Dec 2014

*************

This is it, raw, no spelling corrections.
-- kb


THE REAL WAR

Ken Kesey

I could have written this better on 9-11-'01, the day it was happening-- if I could have written. Everything was so clear that day, so unencumbered by theories and opinions, by thought, even. It just was. All just newborn images, ripped fresh from that monsterous pair of thighs thrust smoking into the morning sunshine. All just amatuer cameras allowing us to witness the developing drama in sweeping handheld seizures. All just muffled mikes recording murmered gasps....

Now, more than a week has passed. The cameras are in the grips of professionals, and the microphones are in the hands of the media. Bush has just finished his big talk to Congress and the men in suits are telling us what the men in uniforms are going to do to the men in turbins if they don't turn over the men in hiding. The talk was planned to prepare us for war. It's going to get messy, everyone agrees. It's going to last for years and probably decades, everybody ruefully conceeds. Nothing will ever be the same, everybody eventually declares.

Then why does it all sound so familiar? So cozy and comfortable? Was it the row after row of dark blue suits, broken only by grim clusters of highranking uniforms all drizzling ribbons and medals? If everything has changed (as we all knew that it had on that first day) why does it all wear the same old outfits and say the same old words?
Because we are talking not just about war, this time, but about the war above the war: the Real War.

This war has already been been waged, and it's not between the US and the Taliban, or between the Moslems and the Isralies or any of the familiar forces, but between the ancient gutwrenching bonebreaking fleshslashing way things have always been and the timerous and fragile way things might begin to be. Could begin to be. Must begin to be, if our lives and our children's lives are ever, someday, in the upheaving future, to know honest peace.

True, the warriors on our side of this Real War seem few and flimsey, but we have a secret advantage: we don't fight our battle out of Hate. Anger, yes, if we have to, but anger is enough. Hate is the flag the other side battles beneath. It is the ancient flag of fire and blood and agony, and it waves over the graves of millions and millions.

Read the rest of it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=657497



 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
9. BS
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:28 PM
Dec 2014

Afghanistan would have remained peaceful and democratic after the soviets left and ruled by Oxford educated Ahmad Shah Masood. The Pakistanis feared him because he was friends with India and the Pakistanis created the Taliban to topple the legitimate government. Pakistani ISI founded, funded, armed and trained the so called Taliban which was mostly comprised of active duty Pakistanis.

9/11 was orchestrated by Pakistan. Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, an ISI asset, wired the money for 9/11. Look at this picture and tell me if they look Saudi or Pakistani to you?



A few look like Egyptian and Palestinian but about 10 have distinct South Asian features. They were carrying Saudi passports which doesn't mean they were Saudi.

If we militarily and economically weaken Pakistan, we will bring peace to the whole region including Afghanistan.

24601

(3,963 posts)
8. Show me the peace treaty or document of surrender. Absent that, it's not over and saying it is just
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 07:24 PM
Dec 2014

doesn't make it so.

 

Joe Magarac

(297 posts)
11. Our *bipartisan* foreign policy is eternal warfare.
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014

"Longest war in US history is ending" is the sort of lie that is more of a loyalty test than a serious attempt to deceive.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
12. At least it sounds better than any plan that would have been implemented by
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 08:46 PM
Dec 2014

President McCain...or President Romney...or any version of a Puke or Bagger.

Is it a total withdrawal of Americans? No.

But the alternative would be MUCH worse.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
17. I'm glad it's winding down from our standpoint, but I have doubts about the other
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:58 PM
Dec 2014

claims. Osama is dead, and good riddance, but his spirit didn't die with him. Al Qaeda is still in business, and Afghanistan is still a hellhole. But we'r almost out of it.

 

Ramses

(721 posts)
18. Obama is ending the war on terror?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 11:22 PM
Dec 2014

Oops, had to read further. We will still have "advisors", equipment, and various "supports" still there.

Sorr of like, no... exactly like a certain war in the 60's i seem to remember.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
21. War on Cancer? War on Poverty? War on Drugs? They are are all older than the War on Terror.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:31 AM
Dec 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Poverty

The War on Poverty is the unofficial name for legislation first introduced by United States President Lyndon B. Johnson during his State of the Union address on January 8, 1964.


http://www.drugpolicy.org/new-solutions-drug-policy/brief-history-drug-war

In June 1971, President Nixon declared a “war on drugs.”


http://www.csicop.org/si/show/war_on_cancer_a_progress_report_for_skeptics/

In 1971, President Nixon and Congress declared war on cancer.
...
As documented above, unlike the successes against heart disease and stroke, the war on cancer, after almost forty years, must be deemed a failure with a few notable exceptions...


 

Ramses

(721 posts)
22. this is great news
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:40 AM
Dec 2014

So the war on cancer has been won. The war on poverty has been won. The war on drugs has been won. WOW. Except that is not what war is being talked about.

Its called a military war, and it never ends, even when politicians are untruthful

No one buys the bullshit anymore.

No one, except those who profit from it

former9thward

(32,099 posts)
20. It wil not end until ALL the troops are pulled out.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 01:17 AM
Dec 2014

Instead of leaving 15,000. And BTW the Taliban control about 85% of the county.

Cha

(297,818 posts)
23. Good, I for one appreciate that the President is winding down the bloody long tragic war in
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:23 AM
Dec 2014
Afghanistan.

Thanks Steve.



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