Arrests plummet 66% with NYPD in virtual work stoppage
Source: NY POST
NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.
The dramatic drop comes as Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Bill de Blasio plan to hold an emergency summit on Tuesday with the heads of the five police unions to try to close the widening rift between cops and the administration.
Police sources said Monday that safety concerns were the main reason for the dropoff in police activity, but added that some cops were mounting an undeclared slowdown in protest of de?Blasios response to the non-indictment in the police chokehold death of Eric Garner.
The Patrolmens Benevolent Association has warned its members to put their safety first and not make arrests unless absolutely necessary.
Read more: http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/
randys1
(16,286 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)the entire population. Excellent work NYPD.
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)tblue37
(65,403 posts)Entire Towns Police Force Went on Strike, It Backfired. No One Wants Them Back
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This week it was reported that police in Acapulco, Mexico went on strike and the people of the city, for the most part, do not seem to want them back. It turns out that without the transit police there is less traffic, and without the municipal police there has been no noticeable increase in crime.
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Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/acapulco-police-strike-backfired/#KyWCtT0bxDOyfv7f.99
AwakeAtLast
(14,130 posts)And if New Yorkers band together, they will make the NYPD seem insignificant.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)...for the 94% of black people not arrested on bullshit charges...
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)is the city in chaos yet?
radhika
(1,008 posts)If the only things cops prioritized were true matters of public safety and crime, there would be more support for police. That would really be the essence of 'protect and serve'.
Traffic tickets and minor (fined) offenses are just as much revenue pumps for the city as true safety measures. For every dollar lost during this slowdown, NYC can save for court time, personnel costs and lock-ups.
former9thward
(32,025 posts)Court personnel get paid whether there is one case or a hundred. Jailers, etc., all get paid no matter what. It is not the rank and file cops "prioritizing" anything. They go where their supervisors tell them. The city's Revenue Dept. tell the supervisors what to emphasize.
Kber
(5,043 posts)With a significantly smaller force.
That might save some money.
former9thward
(32,025 posts)People who think that the population of NYC would allow that are very delusional.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)we have alternate side parking, and I forgot to switch. Could definitely get used to THAT.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)No Quotas
No Grounding
No 'walling'
No hitting/punching/kicking
ananda
(28,866 posts)Wow!
There is SO much wrong with this dystopian society.
I have an eerie feeling that is going to be fuel for the
fire of privatization.
geretogo
(1,281 posts)threat to their power . They live in constant fear of losing any of their control and power over the
people . Fear is their weapon .
kwassa
(23,340 posts)easychoice
(1,043 posts)That's what real management does.RIF to need...
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)You mean they're not writing petty traffic tickets to make their quota? You mean they're not harassing as many people and making up lame excuses to issue citations? FA-BU-LOUS!!!!
If they keep this up for a few weeks, we'll notice that crime rates aren't affected and a whole lot of those boys in blue aren't needed. Time to right-size the NYPD, and keep the cops who take care of actual crimes and don't play bully boys among the regular population.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)bettydavis
(93 posts)kinda frickin great! half of what they do is harass people for no good reason. All arrests should have only be made when absolutely necessary. They finally get it! This could be the best thing that ever happened to my town. protesters left alone, amateur filmmakers can make their crappy art without fear, banksy can run a muck, musicians can play in the subway without fear. what's the bad side? They never came when you called for a real crime any damn way.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)If not, let's do a productivity study. The average NYPD cop represents a significant expense to taxpayers.
former9thward
(32,025 posts)Should we do a productivity study on all union employees or just the unions you don't like?
Bandit
(21,475 posts)How about that, or does that ruffle your feathers too much?
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Fuck all gameplayers, whoever they happen to be.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Hardly a reliable source so buyer beware. More likely a story planted by the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association as part or their war with de Blasio.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It would be a hell of a note to discover numbers are grossly inflated to justify the resources.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)A bloated and inefficient labor force
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)GOOD!
Maybe they can now start fighting real crime instead of waddling their FAT asses around the city writing tickets all day and harassing street vendors
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)The Patrolmens Benevolent Association has warned its members to put their safety first and not make arrests unless absolutely necessary.
As it should be. We should be making no arrests that are not absolutely necessary. It seems to be working. Keep on marching. We're getting what we want.
So how many arrests have been made that are not absolutely necessary? What an odd thing for them to say.
Jacoby365
(451 posts)Jacoby365
(451 posts)Isn't this exactly how it should be? So they have temporarily eliminated petty arrests and the planting of evidence just to make quotas? I say they should make this a permanent deal.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Iggo
(47,558 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)Sanity Claws
(21,849 posts)I hope this means fewer overtime hours too. They often timed things such as arrests in order to get overtime pay.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Hate to sound like "a conspiracy theorist", but this seems like a prime example of police in control of society, versus police serving and protecting. WTF is going on in NYC? I'm sure glad they aren't my police department. I'd be so damned angry and ashamed of every one of those thugs.
Are you satisfied with your public servants defying their service and stubbornly doing their best to put ALL their grievances on their boss for some twisted meanings to words he shared publicly? Instead of addressing the publics' concerns, they defy any introspection and wants to stomp their feet like angry little brats who can't face reality.
Fuck the NYC cops! Seems like they've decided to fuck the people they serve.
Ernesto
(5,077 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)for that kind of push on those things anyhow. Maybe when they come back to work they will do some real police work.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)So NOW you decide to start doing your fucking jobs?
Isn't this essentially an admission of bullying?
Kber
(5,043 posts)This work slowdown may actually save lives.
Garners attempted arrest was not at all necessary. He'd be alive and there for his wife and kids today if this were the policy all along.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Keep summonsing the working class and suck the money from them.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)But even just nuisance summons are great for keeping the poor in their place. They still work, but they lose money for BS "crimes".
bravenak
(34,648 posts)But I get treated normal by the system. Female, speak well, you know, an acceptable negro.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)If you were a white woman, you probably wouldn't have been in court. A reality our society is no where near fixing.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I took out a bus bench and a (very small) decorative light pole that came with the bus stop with my suv. I got dizzy from the flu on the way from the pharmacy. They didn't even ask me if I was drunk or overmedicated. I had weed in my boot. No pat down. Black lady cop. She gave me a hug, cause I was upset. And called me a cab. They gave me the lightest punishment possible. A fine and sr22 for a couple of years. Not too bad considering.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)I guess I don't see the criminal intent. I could see making you pay for the bench (insurance?), but getting dizzy isn't premeditated like getting drunk. I drove from PA to CT with the stomach flu. Miserable drive, but I made it OK.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Yeah, they called it reckless cause i said i shouldn't have been driving. Paid for the bench. I think they took the court costs from my pfd (permanent fund dividend). It was fine after that.
I was in traffic court, lol! I've never been to criminal court for myself. Too boring.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)They should have pleaded that down to improper driving.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I could have, but I hate the system.
Igel
(35,320 posts)If I'm beating up somebody and won't stop unless arrested, sure, it's necessary. Or likely to be. It would stop me from hurting somebody.
If I just mugged you and I'm running away, if I've stopped beating you and I'm running away, is my arrest necessary? Why? I'm not hurting anybody.
Is that the distinction drawn?
What if I'm just breaking a window or stealing out of a car. Is the arrest necessary? "Necessary", like many other words ("good," "bad," "virtuous" get their meaning from context. Up-thread most posters have some definition in mind, but it's pretty clear that in a lot of cases they're really different definitions, and it depends mostly on the level of good or ill-will towards police in general.
No common language, no means for discussion.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They say things, i get confused.
Ino
(3,366 posts)Anything that cuts short their coffee klatch at the 7-11, is not necessary.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)DLnyc
(2,479 posts)And I happen to have white skin.
The NYPD is quite delusional thinking that we can't survive without their macho asses strutting around all day giving people dirty looks and flouting the law.
Maybe they will do us a favor and quit, just to show us how bad we hurt their feelings by saying we want some say in how they operate.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)DesertDiamond
(1,616 posts)onethatcares
(16,172 posts)how this affected the bottom line income of the city.
Would these guys be labeled "Union Thugs" by those that usually use the same rhetoric?
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)This is utter bullshit.
Why aren't the police officers all in an uproar over the NRA and Teabagger groups after Eric Frein, a known right-wing anti-government pro-gun white guy shot a PA State Policeman and then hid out in the Poconos for weeks.
That man-hunt cost PA Taxpayers millions and put a region of the Poconos in fear that there was a sniper out there people hunting. I don't see the Police Unions getting pissed about these pro-gun groups of mainly White Americans out there causing problems and also killing police officers.
barbtries
(28,799 posts)serving, protecting, all that SHIT.
what is behind all this drama? the police have fucked up and they should be able to recognize the need to change their ways. start with respecting the people they deal with day in and out. the attitude they seem to be clinging to is at the very least incredibly immature. it's like they know nothing BUT how to be bullies. i'm disgusted.
are they actually afraid that they will not be able to get away with racial profiling, abusing people at will, and murder? so this just scares them so much they cannot or will not do their jobs? it's sick.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Sounds like the city has become a safer place for many already.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)asjr
(10,479 posts)Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman debacle. And the last few cases of police being found not guilty by juries and judges made the police feel invincible. I do not know who suggested to the NYPD that they turn their backs to the mayor, but it was ill-decided. How can anyone feel safe now?
1step
(380 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Persons of color find peace and tranquility with the cessation of police hostilities in NYC.
I guess with the cop's work stoppage the violent crime in the city has dropped dramatically.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)'cept I'm guessing there'll be no slowdown in arresting dirty hippies.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)the police to do, after all, the police really work for them, not the administration.
What do the people want?
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)CANDO
(2,068 posts)Would someone change their diapers already? Bunch of power hungry authoritarians throw a tantrum when they get challenged. Fucking boohoo!
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)That would be a good thing.
mainer
(12,022 posts)So dangerous that now they've stopped doing it because they're scared?
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)
they'd like something really terrible to happen in NYC and they could then smirk. I live here, and I refuse to be bullied by bullies.
Shame on them.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)I'm sure that the statement the union gives will involve a lot of "officer safety" and "safety of our officers" and all kinds of words like that.
And if you think this will stop at traffic tickets and summonses, you're crazy. On thursday there's going to be the whole ball drop thing and a couple big protests. What's the city to do if there is inadequate police coverage? What if nobody blocks traffic for these protests?
I suspect some bad shit is going to happen.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)This sounds like a huge move in the right direction. The fact that this isn't SOP is probably the source of many criminal justice problems. We have too many people being arrested unnecessarily. I hope this "slowdown" goes on for a long, long time.
1Greensix
(111 posts)I haven't seen anything on Fox News about widespread crime and traffic speeders, so I assume the city is still running smoothly and relatively crime free. Seems to me like they should be able to LAY OFF an awful lot of Unnecessary cops. This is the time for the mayor to put the police in line and under His supervision and Control. Lay off 1500 redundant cops that are standing around Not writing tickets.