UPDATE: Plymouth School Department employees wake to post-Christmas payroll error
Source: Wicked Local Plymouth
More than 1,300 Plymouth Public Schools employees, from cafeteria workers to top administrators, woke up Friday morning to find that their bank account balances were significantly lower than expected. Not only were their bi-weekly paychecks missing, but two additional weeks of pay had also been withdrawn from their accounts.
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I cant believe this was even possible, one veteran teacher told the Old Colony. How can they take money out of your account without your permission?
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We have hundreds of banks associated with these accounts, and right now we are calling each, informing them of the situation and asking that they return the funds, Arrighi said Friday.
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Many of the affected employees were angry, both about the potential damage to their financial situations and the way they were informed - or rather not informed - of the debacle.
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SheilaT
(23,156 posts)withdrawing an extra two weeks pay would overdraw the accounts. Just hope the school district pays all the fees involved.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)This is true for any account, including yours.
Someone told me this happened to them several years ago.
Some people don't sign up for auto-deposit because of this.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)Do I need to double check on the two auto-deposit things I have to my checking account?
bananas
(27,509 posts)I'm not sure a bank would be completely forthcoming about this, they might phrase it deceptively.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)for payments and move money into it for that reason. No one has authorization for our main account. The bank can touch it, but it's much harder.
You are, essentially, giving someone carte blanche to put money in and take it out when you do this. In my experience it's pretty much standard.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)It's a good think we can trust the Gov't not to do anything under handed with our money.........
right?
RIGHT????
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The theory being to correct errors.
For example, an employer many years ago accidentally deposited everyone's paycheck twice. They withdrew the extra paycheck (after providing lots of warning that it was coming, so people didn't move the money).
The protections against this being abused are various fraud laws and banking regulations. It's not much of a danger since it's very rare, but you should be aware it could happen
SamKnause
(13,107 posts)Does this mean the government has control over my checking account ??
bananas
(27,509 posts)In case the LBN hosts find this too hard to believe:
Plymouth Continues Efforts To Fix Massive Payroll Error For School Workers
December 30, 2014
PLYMOUTH - The payroll error impacting all 1,300 employees of the Plymouth school system is causing major headaches for the town.
The Plymouth town administration has taken responsibility for the error, which resulted in workers not receiving their paychecks and also having money withdrawn from their bank accounts. The town will be covering any fees associated with that mistake, according to Donna Ramsey, the president of the Educational Association of Plymouth and Carver.
They brought in a skeleton crew on Friday when town hall was supposed to be closed, so they took this very, very seriously. They knew the impact, said Ramsey. The town manager of Plymouth has taken full control of this. The town has taken responsibility for the error. The school side and the town side have been working with all of the banks.
The town has to work with hundreds of banks to restore the funds, she said.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)payments. You are not in control of your account.
bananas
(27,509 posts)Somebody just told me it happened to them several years ago.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)like the federal gov't, direct deposit is required. Some private sector occupations require it as well. I think my state requires it too.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)to have direct deposit. But I am saying in that case you should not set up any automatic bill payments because you could have your account drained and the automatic payments would give you overdraft charges at up to $35 a pop before you know it and you have no control over it.
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)which is why all payments from me come in the form of USPS money orders... including student loan payments. I lead a pretty simple existence so I can do that and not have any problems with anyone about. I figure they are glad they even get any $$. I pay bills when there's $$, if not, we all have to wait until I do. Nobody gets access to my acct. info such that they can extract anything. And I don't keep much in that acct anyway.
Don't have credit cards and I'm glad I don't have to use them, so far.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Freddie
(9,267 posts)Been in the business for 30 years now. Work for a school district now.
The district probably has 1 person responsible for the entire payroll and she (most likely female) didn't have a good system of double-checking to make sure everything was in order before hitting "send" to the bank. Not a conspiracy, just a screw-up. Major. The district and the sending bank will make everyone whole (fees, etc.)
One time a few years ago I did everything right on my end and the guy at the bank who transmits the files to other banks was on vacation and nobody did his job. This could have happened also. The bank has since put many procedures in place so that never happens again, although in unusual circumstances (like sending payroll very early due to a holiday) I call there anyway. 99.9% of the time you can trust direct deposit! This was the .01%.
I'm not sure what you mean by "most likely female" but it kind of stand out there.
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Freddie
(9,267 posts)Like myself (Freddie is an oversized orange tabby). Please no offense intended.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)If the payroll submission accidentally got classified/processed as as inbound as opposed to outbound, the error would be on the bank who manages the payroll account, not the school payroll department.
Why dual control is critical.
I wouldn't rule out the bank without an audit of their EPN/FED system.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)Much as we like to think of these things as "automated", there's still humans involved. Job security