Roma baby refused burial in France
Source: BBC
A Roma baby girl has been denied a burial space by a French mayor, sparking outrage among activists.
The girl, who died on Christmas Day, reportedly of sudden infant death syndrome, was refused burial in Champlan, south of Paris.
The mayor said priority had to be given to taxpayers.
The mayor of nearby Wissous, Richard Trinquier, described that decision as "incomprehensible" and said that he would offer a grave.
The girl's family lived in a camp in Champlan.
The mayor of Champlan, Christian Leclerc, was quoted by Le Parisien newspaper as justifying the decision by saying that his town was running out of burial space and that "priority is given to those who pay local taxes".
Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30670371
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)I'd like that mayor to explain why they bury any babies at all if only taxpayers are allowed. I've never met a baby with a job.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)I'd bet that the baby was not denied a burial. She was probably denied a burial at state expense.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Most towns have a budget item for burying homeless people or those too poor to pay for a burial. This "not enough room" blather was simple unjustified racism.
question everything
(47,486 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)Doesn't get much more heartless than refusing burial to an infant.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)I am glad that the nearby Mayor was prepared to help.
How can someone be so utterly mean as to deny a child a grave?
pampango
(24,692 posts)The mayor, Richard Trinquier, is a member of the UMP (French version of republican) and is well known for his anti-Muslim views. His attitudes fit well with the French GOP but he might be an even better fit for the National Front which is even further to the right.
Richard Trinquier elected UMP Essonne, do not like Muslims. His latest feat of arms: the prohibition of a leisure center with two veiled women in early July. A move that would earn him on Wednesday a criminal complaint for discrimination and incitement to racial hatred.
http://www.jeuneafrique.com/Article/ARTJAWEB20140730120657/
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)the link, I am going there. love counterpunch.
1step
(380 posts)The situation has already been resolved, according to you own OP.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)What happened after that is the rest of the story, a story about an infant being refused burial in France.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)The baby was refused a burial plot in Champlain. That is still true, nothing misleading at all about the headline. One could argue that the headline could imply all of France, but that dos not change the fact that Champlan refused.
LiberalFighter
(50,944 posts)marble falls
(57,102 posts)Snow Leopard
(348 posts)One way or the other
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)You think?
I'm an outspoken atheist and I certainly don't believe in a human"soul", but show some humanity.
Unlike this racist mayor.
Not a good start, Snow Leopard. You might want to delete that post, or at least edit in something more appropriate.
Welcome to DU.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Feral Child
(2,086 posts)Needle's broke on my outrage meter these days.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Snow Leopard
(348 posts)not outrage at the Mayor's call. Coupled with a nearby solution being found, it is a bit overblown in my humble opinion.
Heywood J
(2,515 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)I was under the impression that there is always a fee. What's wrong with cremation? I'm not feeling the outrage.
Igel
(35,320 posts)The indigent, the transient, the unclaimed and unidentifiable. Prisoners sometimes fall into that category, esp. if from out of state. We used to call them "pauper's graves."
This would be in graveyards in some towns or counties, or the jurisdiction pays for funeral services from a private vendor. This is really the "US" version, where we have municipal (at least sometimes), private, and church-based graveyards.
And it's true, in a lot of places graveyards are filling up. Then you have to worry about getting more land, double burials, or removing the dead and finding another, more compact place for them. The good thing about wood coffins and no formaldehyde is that in some areas after 50 or 100 years the bodies are completely decomposed, or little remains of the skeleton so that they can be repackaged into much smaller volumes. (Personally, I think burials should involve having the deceased "stood to rest"--takes up much less land area per capita, so to speak.)
In some countries they lack the private graveyards. Then it's church or municipal.
This tyke isn't the first person to be refused for burial on various grounds, most often religious. But transients and such are sometimes refused burial, and the reasons given are those from the mayor in the OP. Typically the race/ethnicity of the town, the transient, and the denying official are the same or very similar and it's not an issue.
This being DU, the only time such "horrors" are noticed is when it touches a nerve. When a Muslim is refused burial in a Xian-denominated graveyard (or, in tit-for-tat response, when a Xian is refused burial in a Muslim graveyard), for instance, and "Muslimophobia" is railed against (not such a big deal if it's a Catholic being denied burial in a Lutheran cemetary, "catholophobia" being a virtue for many). Or when a transient, indigent child is refused burial and some domestic political outrage can be cited as the real, underlying problem.
This nails both. Roma aren't Xian, so the churches would bail. And the graveyards of last resort, the municipal ones, often have a preference for the local population that needs to be serviced. (The ultimate problem being, of course, that graveyards are filling up and that small villages typically aren't flush with cash.) So it's easy to ignore what's always there and focus on the racism that must be the real reason: Discrimination against the Roma, who are always innocent victims. It helps when the Rom in question is an infant.
On edit: I'm never sure how to speak about the Roma.
So many advocates use "Roma," but that's really just the endonym some groups with very outspoken and organized advocates, some of which are from those communities and others of which are complete outsiders (some even want "Rroma" . Others like the UN want "Romani" or "Romany". In France the groups--like "Native American," a larger group identity for the "Roma" has been forged mostly by exposure to the oustide and isn't universally shared by all its members--are Kale and Manouche (or Sinti), with a lot of other subgroups having moved in recently because of open travel policies (with attempts to revert them to their countries of origin fought vehemently--if unemployed and Bulgarian it's okay, but not if you're oppressed).
In other words, I use "Roma" because the use of an exonym is inherently disrespectful. I must think of "Roma" as an endonym because for some it is, even though for this family it's probably an exonym. I get it: Exonyms bad, except when somebody more moral and virtuous than I am authorizes the use of an exonym and says, "Exonyms good."