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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 03:33 AM Apr 2012

Anointing Rock Legends From the Coasts

Last edited Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:33 PM - Edit history (2)

Source: NY Times

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, a gleaming glass pyramid on the shores of Lake Erie, has become a proud symbol of this city. And Cleveland’s rock fans turned out in droves for the hall’s 27th induction ceremony on Saturday, only third time it has been held here.

But this year much of the show’s music was rooted squarely in the country’s entertainment capitals of New York and Los Angeles. Guns N’ Roses and the Red Hot Chili Peppers represented two branches of California rock in the 1980s, metal and punk. And the Beastie Boys and the mercurial songwriter Laura Nyro, if they have anything in common, were celebrated as but two slices of New York’s huge, multifaceted musical culture.

The ceremony, at the incongruously stately Public Auditorium — a 1920s Beaux Arts monolith a few blocks from the museum — also honored Donovan; the blues guitarist Freddie King; the linked British invasion bands Small Faces and the Faces; the music executive Don Kirshner; and an array of sidemen and backup groups.

And in between blistering jams, encomiums and shaggy dog stories about rockers’ early years, musicians spoke of their home cities as inspiration, common ground or hell.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/arts/music/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inducts-guns-n-roses-beastie-boys-and-red-hot-chili-peppers.html?pagewanted=all





From left, Gilby Clarke, Matt Sorum, Duff McKagan, Slash and Steven Adler of Guns N' Roses at the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony in Cleveland on Saturday. (Getty Images)

(Title has now been revised for print, previously was "A Ceremony in the Midwest Honors Rock Legends From the Coasts&quot
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Anointing Rock Legends From the Coasts (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP
Everyone has their pet "why are they not inductees?" band, but to me, the seminal one is RUSH. pepperbear Apr 2012 #1
Rush's singer has too high a voice for me to handle, alp227 Apr 2012 #2
I didn't realize Rush wasn't in, that's wrong. independentpiney Apr 2012 #3
Bon Jovi and Kiss being others. rocktivity Apr 2012 #4
Looking at who's not nominated aggravates me every year independentpiney Apr 2012 #13
Marsh once called Jon Bon Jovi an "opportunist" rocktivity Apr 2012 #17
Grand Funk? Botany Apr 2012 #6
Regardless of how lame they were from a musical standpoint independentpiney Apr 2012 #7
Im getting closer to my home,,,,,,,, philosopherdog Apr 2012 #9
An interesting take, very well put nt independentpiney Apr 2012 #16
Cheap Trick blm Apr 2012 #12
one of the best live bands ever nt independentpiney Apr 2012 #15
Damn, I signed in just to agree with you. what a band. zonkers Apr 2012 #21
Absolutely a guaranteed GREAT show with GREAT songs. blm Apr 2012 #22
Wow! Red Knight Apr 2012 #25
Their exclusion is indeed criminal . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #30
Cleveland is the midwest? Earth_First Apr 2012 #5
Absolutely Midwest JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #14
homeland values? waddirum Apr 2012 #20
Hahahaha JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #28
The furthest reaches of the Eastern time zone are in Michigan. amandabeech Apr 2012 #29
i pass it by everyday on the way to work but untill they induct rush i wont set foot in it leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #8
The R & R HOF RT_Fanatic Apr 2012 #10
Thanks for posting this JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #11
Some great shows.... WCGreen Apr 2012 #23
Brought to us by.... JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #27
I would hardly call Cleveland the mid-west liberal N proud Apr 2012 #18
The NYT has now revised the title for print by dropping "midwest". alp227 Apr 2012 #19
I've lived here all my life and i think the east side is the end of the East Coast and the west side WCGreen Apr 2012 #24
As usual, kentauros Apr 2012 #26

pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
1. Everyone has their pet "why are they not inductees?" band, but to me, the seminal one is RUSH.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 03:46 AM
Apr 2012

I just don't understand it. It's not just that I am a fan, it's that they've had a 37 year career and they've influenced countless famous musicians. I can't believe this isn't relevant.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
2. Rush's singer has too high a voice for me to handle,
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 04:34 AM
Apr 2012

but their music is indeed creative and melodious, for example "The Spirit of Radio", the opening theme of Norman Goldman: here's a pounding performance from a recent tour:

independentpiney

(1,510 posts)
3. I didn't realize Rush wasn't in, that's wrong.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:28 AM
Apr 2012

From what I've heard certain bands that became successful in spite of being panned by Rolling Stone are essentially blackballed. Grand Funk being another.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
4. Bon Jovi and Kiss being others.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:42 AM
Apr 2012

HOF judge Dave Marsh has publicly stated that Bon Jovi will never get in as long as he can do anything about it. Marsh's wife worked for Bruce Springsteen's manager -- guess he doesn't like the idea of there being more than one world-famous Jersey Shore rock band...


rocktivity

independentpiney

(1,510 posts)
13. Looking at who's not nominated aggravates me every year
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 01:44 PM
Apr 2012

I didn't know that about Dave Marsh and Bon Jovi, that truly pisses me off.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
17. Marsh once called Jon Bon Jovi an "opportunist"
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 02:37 PM
Apr 2012

which is like Hugh Hefner calling someone a pimp.


rocktivity

independentpiney

(1,510 posts)
7. Regardless of how lame they were from a musical standpoint
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 10:14 AM
Apr 2012

they somehow struck a chord, no pun intended, with a massive number of people for several years. They sold out shows and broke records for album sales in spite of being almost universally reviled by both music critics and musicians who couldn't figure out why they were popular. I knew a number of secret Grand Funk fans, I'm Your Captain/Closer to Home was almost as much of a staple to learn for beginning guitarists as Smoke on the Water. They were a phenomena, and should be recognized for it.

philosopherdog

(3 posts)
9. Im getting closer to my home,,,,,,,,
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 11:13 AM
Apr 2012

Where my home is seen as a place of quiet and solitude from where a person can reflect on life and the concerting matters thereof, a song like this is going to forever have an enormous positive affect on any person as it draws hauntingly into the innermost parts of a person's psyche, or soul. Bands like Grand funk must be recognized and forever remembered and commended even if only one song such as I'm Your Captain is the only contribution they ever made. Ignorance of forms is what plagues today's fearing societies world-wide. It is a problem of pure evil if that is a word with meaning and intent.

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
21. Damn, I signed in just to agree with you. what a band.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:46 PM
Apr 2012

I saw them a few times in 1979-81. NY Palladium. Phi. Spectrum. Wow.


Hello there ladies and gentleman......

Red Knight

(704 posts)
25. Wow!
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:32 PM
Apr 2012

I had no idea they weren't in already.

Ridiculous. They have one of the greatest drummers of all time.

They have more longevity than "Guns and Roses".

Sad, really.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
30. Their exclusion is indeed criminal . . .
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:55 PM
Apr 2012

. . . especially when one considers Cleveland was the city where they first broke big as a band.

Even though I'm speaking as a 32-year Rush listener and fan, I don't think one even needs to be a fan of Rush to see that this 13 year black-list exemplifies extreme douchiness on the board's part. For fuck's sake, a band that was influenced by Rush (Metallica) is in (particularly their late bassist). What gives?

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
14. Absolutely Midwest
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 01:48 PM
Apr 2012

Though situated at the furthest reaches of the Eastern Standard time zone, our midwestern twang and homeland values mark Ohio as the first of such states that spread to Missourri, the geographical and symbolic gateway to the West (a nickname shared with Pittsburgh).

150 years ago, Ohio was considered a Western frontier state.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
29. The furthest reaches of the Eastern time zone are in Michigan.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:28 PM
Apr 2012

All of the lower peninsula is in the Eastern zone as is the eastern 2/3 of the upper peninsula.

At the summer equinox, it's still light at 10 pm and it doesn't get really dark until midnight.

It's a great place for a summer vacation, just like in the commercials!

P.S. It took Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band forever to be inducted. I called East Coast bias, but maybe it was someone like this Marsh creature.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
11. Thanks for posting this
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 01:37 PM
Apr 2012

I'm a big fan of the venue itself, and live about 45 miles from there. Constantly evolving, it's a rock marvel worthy of a trek from either coast. I can't wait until next month when HBO shows the ceremony and concert once again. I've lost count of how many concerts I've had the pleasure of seeing at the old Public Auditorium. it was the place to go for premier acts in the 60s/70s.

As the article points out, the picture above doesn't include Izzy Stradlin. That's Gilby Clarke.

Thanks again for posting this. k&r.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
23. Some great shows....
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:14 PM
Apr 2012

the wildest one I remember was ZZ Top, in their first appearance in Cleveland, opened for Earth Wind and Fire followed by Uriah Heep....

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
27. Brought to us by....
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:40 AM
Apr 2012

A Belkin Brothers Production.

LOL... Jules & Mike were some smart (and very hip) guys. Jules was one of the primary driving forces behind bringing the R&RHOF to Cleveland:

http://www.clevelandseniors.com/people/belkin.htm

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
18. I would hardly call Cleveland the mid-west
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 04:08 PM
Apr 2012

I grew up in Iowa and lived I'm Missouri for 20 years, now I live in the Cleveland area, the people of Northeast Ohio are more like the people from the east coast, than Iowa or even Chicago.

As a Midwest boy, I take issue with Cleveland being included in the Midwest.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
24. I've lived here all my life and i think the east side is the end of the East Coast and the west side
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 07:16 PM
Apr 2012

is the beginning of the midwest.

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