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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:38 AM Jan 2015

Former N.J. ethics officials assail Christie’s acceptance of free Cowboys’ tickets, airfare

Source: The (Bergen) Record

January 7, 2015, 10:58 PM Last updated: Wednesday, January 7, 2015, 11:05 PM

By MELISSA HAYES and JOHN REITMEYER

staff writer | The Record

Governor Christie should not have accepted tickets and airfare to a Dallas Cowboys playoff game from the team’s owner, even if he considers him a personal friend, former members of the State Ethics Commission said Wednesday.

“I think this is too big to be an honest mistake,” said William Schluter, a former Republican state senator who served on the commission.

“At a very minimum there is a significant appearance issue here,” said Paula Franzese, a Seton Hall law professor who served as special ethics counsel to Gov. Richard J. Codey and was also a member of the Ethics Commission.

Christie has faced mounting criticism since he was seen on national television hugging Cowboys owner Jerry Jones in a luxury box at the football game in Dallas on Sunday afternoon.

Read more: http://www.northjersey.com/news/former-n-j-ethics-officials-assail-christie-s-acceptance-of-free-cowboys-tickets-airfare-1.1187555



Interesting interpretation by some former members of the State Ethics Commission, who do NOT have to deal directly with the bully of Trenton. They include a republican who served on the Commission.

I wonder if Christie is still planning on going to Green Bay this weekend, and if so how he'll get there and where he'll sit.

Another interesting thing in the article: "Christie spokesman Kevin Roberts said the governor and Jones became friends in mid-2013", AFTER the Port Authority contract was awarded to Jones' company! Not good.
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Former N.J. ethics officials assail Christie’s acceptance of free Cowboys’ tickets, airfare (Original Post) George II Jan 2015 OP
I hate the guy, but why is this unethical? Reter Jan 2015 #1
The ethics issue jehop61 Jan 2015 #3
For one thing, there's a code of conduct in place in New Jersey that says.... George II Jan 2015 #4
I'm sure a 1st class plane ticket is more than $200!! Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #7
A private jet costs something like $2000 per hour to operate... George II Jan 2015 #9
Then he's a bigger pig that even I had imagined. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #10
I Don't Mean To Sound Harsh... Laxman Jan 2015 #13
Even Christie's own spokesperson said this week they've only been friends since 2013.... George II Jan 2015 #18
Republican are always looking for safeinOhio Jan 2015 #2
That's calling the kettle black for sure! Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #6
MMmm, I love the smell of toast in the morning! Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #5
The Rs eat their own over silly things. Many wealthy people have a luxury sky box at major sports. Sunlei Jan 2015 #8
Governor McDonnell bpj62 Jan 2015 #11
I Have Three Words For You.... Laxman Jan 2015 #12
I can only hope that Christie gets the same treatment. olegramps Jan 2015 #14
So um, whatever happened to Bridgegate? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2015 #15
Here Is A Small Sample... Laxman Jan 2015 #16
The Federal prosecutors just yesterday issued subpoenas to the state legislative committee... George II Jan 2015 #17
Christie is always getting in trouble Non-Automatic_Belief Jan 2015 #19
We Were Pegging The Cost Of The Trip.... Laxman Jan 2015 #20
That's a little more than the reportable $200! George II Jan 2015 #21
I just read he is planning on attending! herding cats Jan 2015 #22
"NJ Ethics Officials"... if that isn't an oxymoron, I don't know what is WestSeattle2 Jan 2015 #23
 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
1. I hate the guy, but why is this unethical?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:27 AM
Jan 2015

If the taxpayers paid for it, I would be outraged. Jerry Jones paid for it. He's a billionaire and won't miss it. Am I missing something?

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
3. The ethics issue
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:37 AM
Jan 2015

is what will Jerry Jones get from the Gov. for providing these goodies. He already has profited via a contract authorized by Christie. Looks, walks, and talks like a duck

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. For one thing, there's a code of conduct in place in New Jersey that says....
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:44 AM
Jan 2015

...a governor has to report non-monetary gifts of $200 or more. He's been to at least two or three football games with Jones in NJ and Philadelphia and hasn't reported them yet (one would think a football ticket in a luxury box is more than $200)

Also, a governor can only accept gifts from a "personal friend", not a business man.

Finally, a couple of years ago Jones' company was awarded a multi-million dollar contract to run restaurants for the Port Authority, at Christie's recommendation. THEN he and Jones became "personal friends" and became eligible to receive gifts.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. A private jet costs something like $2000 per hour to operate...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 12:10 PM
Jan 2015

....and Christie brought his wife and four children to Dallas with him.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
13. I Don't Mean To Sound Harsh...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jan 2015

but under what circumstances do you find it acceptable for a sitting public official to accept a gift-let alone a gift with a value of in excess of $20,000? It is NEVER acceptable for a public official to accept gifts. This is a guy who warned about local officials even accepting a sandwich from a local deli owner when he was U.S. Attorney. Now look at him. Have we become so desensitized and accepting of a privileged class that we can no longer discern that this is just wrong on its face?

Now, lets add to the equation that Jerry Jones firm just received a contract with the Port Authority valued at over $850 million that the Christie administration pushed for. Does it look unethical to you yet?

The relationships of the rich and powerful with elected officials extends beyond just large campaign donations. Christie got there because of his position, not some fabled friendship with Jerry Jones. That is the appearance of impropriety. That is unethical.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Even Christie's own spokesperson said this week they've only been friends since 2013....
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:03 PM
Jan 2015

....the contract was awarded on March 19, 2013.

Bizarre coincidence? I seriously doubt it.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
6. That's calling the kettle black for sure!
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jan 2015

They always say that about Democrats, eg: The "Obama Phone". Just rich!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. The Rs eat their own over silly things. Many wealthy people have a luxury sky box at major sports.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jan 2015

Corps do too. It seats about 50 people and they invite friends or sometimes give the seats to a charity group for a game.

Its not like any republican gave Christie 'bribe money' or a cut into any business or real estate investment tips for closing a bridge... or did they?

Republicans never liked Christie, remember Romney? he constantly avoided pictures with Christie and never even had him to the family mansions once.

bpj62

(999 posts)
11. Governor McDonnell
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jan 2015

Our former Governor was just sentenced to 2 years in club fed for an clear quid pro quo issue. Governor Christie clearly feels that he can do what he wants and that no one will challenge him. I do not understand why the people of the State of New Jersey have foisted this guy upon the nation. he is a bully and someone has to take him down.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
12. I Have Three Words For You....
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 12:48 PM
Jan 2015

Christie Crime Digest

Volume I

Volume II

This has nothing to do with what team he roots for, who he hugged or how he attempted to jump up and down. There are millions of Cowboy fans. They weren't all sitting in the owner's box. They weren't all flown down on the owner's jet. They didn't all get access to the field to meet the team. Only one did. Chris Christie. This is about a public official accepting a gift with a value in the tens of thousands of dollars (do the math and you'll see it adds up quickly) from a man who did business with an agency that Christie has influence over-the Port Authority of NY & NJ. Christie accepted a gift that was only available to him via his elected position and certainly has the appearance of a quid pro quo or even an attempt to gain greater influence over him in the future. These aren't best buddies. These aren't old friends. This is an elected official taking a very expensive gift from a business man looking to gain influence. The former governor of Virginia just went to federal prison the other day for arguably less.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
15. So um, whatever happened to Bridgegate?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 03:18 PM
Jan 2015

Seems like every Republican engaging in misbehavior always escapes the day of reckoning. A woman died as a result of that petty political retribution. At the time I thought that would be the end of the Governor. All they do is wait it out until something else hits the headlines. This will be the same.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
16. Here Is A Small Sample...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 05:16 PM
Jan 2015

of what has been happening. The U.S. Attorney's investigation continues. This is not an easy case. Nobody's talking, the relationships are complex and the subject matter is broad and diverse. Today is the one year aniversary of the "time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee" e-mail being unearthed by the Record :

Here’s a round­up of what has grown out of Bridget Anne Kelly’s now infamous email to former Port Authority executive David Wildstein:

By Friday, New Jersey’s top federal prosecutor will have been investigating the lane closures for a year. The probe has expanded to look at the Port Authority’s former chairman and close Christie adviser David Samson and allegations that the Christie administration withheld Sandy aid from Hoboken because that city’s mayor did not fast-track a real estate development represented by Samson’s law firm.

People familiar with some of the details of the case said they expect it to wrap up early this year, adding that they believed there would be an announcement by U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman regardless of the outcome because of the high-profile nature of the investigation. If there are charges, that could present awkward timing for Christie, who plans to announce whether he’ll run for president early this year.

The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office is also conducting a criminal investigation into the diversion of $1.8 billion in Port Authority money at the urging of the Christie administration to pay for non-agency roads owned by New Jersey. In recent months, the office has been conducting interviews and reviewing internal Port Authority documents.

The Port Authority, whose spending is restricted by law to its own facilities, justified the diversion by claiming the roadways are used to access its Lincoln Tunnel. The roads, including the Pulaski Skyway, however, do not connect to the tunnel and are miles away from it. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating the diversion.

Samson faces a separate investigation by the New Jersey State Ethics Commission regarding votes he took that appeared to benefit clients of his law firm.

The state legislative investigation that unearthed the “traffic problems” email, led by state Sen. Loretta Weinberg and Assemblyman John S. Wisniewski, has temporarily halted its work to avoid interfering with the federal probe. Christie’s office also hired its own team of lawyers to investigate. They found that Christie had no involvement and placed the blame largely on Kelly and Wildstein, finding there were “ulterior motives.” But neither investigation, which have combined costs of more than $8 million, got the cooperation of those and other key players who could shed additional light on how the closures came about.

The bi-state agency, now with a new chairman, has already made small internal changes and is on the cusp of making some big ones that would cut into the governors’ direct control of the agency. The agency will reclaim $600 million in toll money set aside for each governor’s pet projects. And this year, the agency will begin a national search for a chief executive officer to replace the two political appointees — one appointed by each governor — who now run its operations.


read the article here: http://www.northjersey.com/news/gwb-probe-one-year-later-1.1187466

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. The Federal prosecutors just yesterday issued subpoenas to the state legislative committee...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:57 PM
Jan 2015

...that is doing their investigation, looking for testimony from Bill Baroni.

The Federal investigation is proceeding, the state is on quasi-hold pending the result of the Federal investigation.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
20. We Were Pegging The Cost Of The Trip....
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 07:55 PM
Jan 2015

at around $20,000. Wow were we wrong! It comes in at over $125,000!


The Dallas trip was gift from Jones, who sent a private jet to pick up Christie and four members of his family, seating them in the owner’s box, and inviting the governor to mingle with players on the field.

How much would something like that cost?

Brace yourself as we travel to the world of billionaires: It would cost between $125,000 and $150,000, according to a luxury travel agent who arranges this kind of junket.

“We get calls form CEOs or wealthy individuals who want to go a game, sit in the owner’s suite, go on the field afterward, meet a player prior to the game, all that stuff,” says Robert Tuchman from Goviva. “That’s our thing, all kinds of once-in-a-lifetime experiences.”


Holy Cow!

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/01/christies_stumble_in_dallas_could_be_fatal_moran.html#incart_river

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. That's a little more than the reportable $200!
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jan 2015

I wonder if he's still planning on traveling to Green Bay on Sunday? Is he taking a Greyhound bus this time?

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
22. I just read he is planning on attending!
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jan 2015

He said he'll be paying for his own travel and tickets this time.

If the image below depicting CBS estimates is correct, I doubt he can afford the golden ticket treatment again!

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