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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:46 PM Jan 2015

North Korea Seems to Be Closer to Missile-Launching Submarine

Source: New York Times

By RICK GLADSTONE JAN. 8, 2015

North Korea has displayed its cyberattack capabilities and advances toward making nuclear warheads, the country’s adversaries say. Now, the North appears to have shown progress in fitting submarines with missile launchers.

A report posted Thursday on the website of 38north, a prominent research group that focuses on North Korea, said commercial satellite imagery of a North Korean submarine, taken less than a month ago, indicates the vessel may have one or two vertical launching tubes for either ballistic or cruise missiles.

The submarine, first seen in July, could be a test bed for underwater missile launching, which would be harder to detect than land-based launchers, the report said. It was written by Joseph S. Bermudez Jr., an arms expert and authority on North Korea’s defense capabilities.

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On Tuesday, South Korea’s Defense Ministry said the North appeared to have made a “significant” advance toward perfecting a nuclear warhead small enough to fit on a long-range missile that could reach the American West Coast. The ministry also suggested the North possessed a missile that could fly that far.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/world/asia/north-korea-progress-developing-missile-launching-submarine.html?partner=rss&emc=rss



Please read the entire article as it was difficult to condense into four paragraphs as per DU rules.
This isn't intended to be alarmist.
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North Korea Seems to Be Closer to Missile-Launching Submarine (Original Post) inanna Jan 2015 OP
excuse me if I laugh OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #1
Come on, it has a cool periscope and everything Brother Buzz Jan 2015 #2
Don't react to the cheese farts! NBachers Jan 2015 #6
Aye, aye, skipper Brother Buzz Jan 2015 #7
The article states they don't have the ability n/t Non-Automatic_Belief Jan 2015 #3
Aren't they supposed to be able to come back up? Archae Jan 2015 #4
Thanks for the good laugh at bedtime! nt 7962 Jan 2015 #8
One could argue that submarine launched missiles is 50 year old technology. BlueEye Jan 2015 #10
That from the country that could make a missle launching missle launcher Fearless Jan 2015 #5
I read the article and it was informative davidpdx Jan 2015 #9
Presuming they manage to go to sea, do we arrange an "accident" Lurks Often Jan 2015 #11
 

OnePercentDem

(79 posts)
1. excuse me if I laugh
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 09:53 PM
Jan 2015

Not at you but the idea that they have the ability. I have seen the submarines they are using, we are talking 40 year old technology.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
2. Come on, it has a cool periscope and everything
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:11 PM
Jan 2015


And until they figure out the bugs in the HVAC, they will just open the doors to cool things off

BlueEye

(449 posts)
10. One could argue that submarine launched missiles is 50 year old technology.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jan 2015

Since the US and USSR both possessed the capability in the 1960s.

At the same time, I am deeply skeptical that North Korea will have the ability to do this anytime soon. They have yet to demonstrate that they have a land-based missile system capable of delivering a nuclear payload. Also, to my knowledge, the North Koreans are still using liquid fueled missiles. Submarine launched missiles pretty much HAVE TO be solid fueled. North Korea is years from that point.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. I read the article and it was informative
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 03:11 AM
Jan 2015

Last edited Fri Jan 9, 2015, 08:41 AM - Edit history (1)

I have been very interested in this given I live in South Korea. It's hard to know how much of their technology they show off is fake (the cardboard missiles in parades are obvious) and how much is real. They have had limited success with missile launches, but the one thing they lack is the resources unless they are getting them from other places (Russia, China, Iran, Pakistan or Syria).

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
11. Presuming they manage to go to sea, do we arrange an "accident"
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jan 2015

1. I doubt they have they have a missile capable of reaching the West Coast, much less are able to put into a submarine, the only known submarine they have large enough and with enough range would be the Romeo class
submarine which is 1950's technology: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo-class_submarine

2. This hypothetical submarine with 1950's technology would be facing the larger, faster, quieter diesel-electric submarines of South Korea and Japan and the U.S. nuclear subs in addition to the surface and aviation forces of those countries.

3. I certainly wouldn't put it past South Korea, Japan or the U.S. to arrange an "accident" if the NK sub made it out into the open ocean where there wouldn't be anyone around to witness such an "accident". I'm not even sure that NK would even admit that the hypothetical submarine was even missing.

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