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hue

(4,949 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:43 PM Jan 2015

States Consider Requiring US Citizenship Test for Graduation

Source: abc NEWS



Arizona's new law requiring high school students to pass the U.S. citizenship test in order to graduate appears likely to be adopted in a handful of other states this year, though educators warn it's not a fix-all solution to the nation's dire knowledge of civics.

Fewer than a dozen states currently require students to take a civics exam, and passing it isn't necessary to graduate in all of them. In most states, civic education instead revolves around a one-semester U.S. history course.

Arizona on Thursday became the first to specifically require the U.S. citizenship test, a 100-question exam that tests knowledge of facts on subjects like the Founding Fathers, the Bill of Rights and U.S. presidents.

"This has been building for a long time," said Ted McConnell, executive director of the Campaign for the Civic Mission of Schools, a civic learning coalition co-chaired by former U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. While O'Connor supported the initiative, McConnell and others are wary that legislators are only skimming the surface of what students need to know.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/arizona-students-pass-us-citizenship-test-civics-28269258

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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. Arizona is about to drop to dead last in graduation rate
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:46 PM
Jan 2015

A lot of native-born adult 'Murkins can't pass it.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
2. Oh cmon. Passing U.S. history, Civics, isn't enough now in high school
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 05:48 PM
Jan 2015

Reeks of racism. Bet those bozos making the rules couldn't pass a US citizen test

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
3. Really? For ALL students? Or just "select" ones?
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 06:20 PM
Jan 2015

I have no problem requiring students to pass tests to graduate. But it isn't a "citizenship" test. Perhaps a civics test? Perhaps a math or reading test? Unbiased and equitably dispersed? Maybe.

The bright side here is that statistically children of immigrants can pass these tests at a much higher rate than their multi-generation citizen counterparts. This should get interesting.

Igel

(35,320 posts)
7. It would have been called a "civics test" 50 years ago.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jan 2015

Now they'd first have to teach most people what the word "civics" means.


Typically if a test is required for graduation, it's required at all public schools for graduation. In most states, also required at private schools for graduation.

The only exceptions are those students with mods as part of an IEP. Even then, more and more states are disposing of modified standardized exit-level tests.


It doesn't matter, children of immigrants versus others. They'd have a couple of years phase-in during which time every school district would develop their own in-house list of questions then hire consultants to complete them. They'd have a required class to get the kids to memorize those 200 answers or so and be done with it.

I watched a very successful ESL class that had a citizenship class on the side. There were people who were going to be recycled into the 1st year language class for a second and third year who aced their citizenship test. They had no idea what they were saying. They repeated the answers like I at one time could recite several psalms in Hebrew without knowing even enough Hebrew to say "My name is Igel, what is yours?" or count to 5. (Heck, without being able to count to 2. I had also memorized the sh'ma.)

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
8. Good catch. It's not a "citizenship test." Failing it won't change the student's citizenship.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 03:29 PM
Jan 2015

The simplest way to increase knowledge of civics is to mandate teaching modules for students as part of social studies or history curricula.
Testing as a barrier to high school completion does not benefit the students.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
5. They should teach those kids about the FLSA, NLRA and FMLA et al while they are at it
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:22 PM
Jan 2015

So they know their rights when they enter the workforce.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
6. Great! They can start with Congress.
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 09:10 AM
Jan 2015

Many of whom seem to be lacking basic knowledge of what this country stands for.

-- Mal

9. Maybe not a bad idea
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 04:10 PM
Jan 2015

Considering that this is Arizona, it may not be implemented well or fairly, but there are far too many US citizens that don't understand the basics of how our government is supposed to work, the checks and balances that a built into the constitution and so forth. Even on DU, I often see posts that make me wonder if we shouldn't start requiring Civics classes for everyone.

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