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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 11:09 AM Jan 2015

Anglican Church in England to ordain first woman bishop in history

Source: France 24

The Anglican Church of England will ordain a woman bishop for the first time in history on Monday. The Reverend Libby Lane, mother of two and a fan of Manchester United, has been designated.

Monday, January 26 will be a milestone in the history of the Anglican Church. Elizabeth Jane Holden Lane - who was appointed in December- will be the first woman bishop since 1534, when King Henry VIII founded the Church of England.


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This ordination, to be held in York Minster, the largest Gothic church in Northern Europe, marks the beginning of a new era after centuries of male dominance in the clerical hierarchy. It has long been expected by those who argue for a greater role for women in the Church of England and comes 20 years after the first ordinations of women priests in England, where they now account for almost a third of the clergy .

Read more: http://www.france24.com/fr/20150123-angleterre-eglise-anglicane-libby-lane-premiere-femme-eveque/



Well, better late than never...

Perhaps the ascension of women within the CoE will at least slow down its demise.
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Anglican Church in England to ordain first woman bishop in history (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 OP
Always nice to see progress iandhr Jan 2015 #1
!!! Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #2
I belong to the liberal "ELCA" branch of the Lutheran Church..... RationalMan Jan 2015 #3
Well, Hindus hold that everything in observable "creation" is Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #4
That is interesting..... RationalMan Jan 2015 #5
An objection in the service, but it was ignored and the service continued muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #6

RationalMan

(96 posts)
3. I belong to the liberal "ELCA" branch of the Lutheran Church.....
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jan 2015

I grew up in the traditional hardcore "Missouri Synod" Lutheran church that to this day does not ordain women, has a "love the sinner but hate the sin" view on homosexuality, vehemently challenges a woman's right to choose, etc.

The ELCA, or rather its predecessor the Lutheran Church in America, began ordaining women in 1970. After moving my membership from the Missouri Synod to the ELCA I found a refreshing "freshness" to the ministry when both men and women are seen as pastors and leaders in the church. Further for communion, lay members assist the pastoral staff which brings a level of inclusiveness to the sacrament.

I have an Aunt who still belongs in the MS tradition and we often have heated arguments about such matters. I tell her that her church will eventually wither away and die because when the ministry is not something to which many people aspire and you tell nearly 52% of the population they need not apply and you have a no tolerance policy on gay clergy, you are left with a very small pool of candidates.

The fact that in the Jesus narrative he surrounded himself with men (and a few women) is no reason to deny women the priesthood. It was the culture of the time but there is nothing in the Bible that prohibits women as teachers "rabbi". It was the early Christian church with a patriarchal pedigree that limited the priesthood to males.

I think that God isn't happy after all she created both men and women. How could a man create anything, really? As a gay man the world was either created by a woman or a gay man.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Well, Hindus hold that everything in observable "creation" is
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jan 2015

feminine (Maya), and that only the "creator" that underpins it is "masculine" (Brahman).

RationalMan

(96 posts)
5. That is interesting.....
Fri Jan 23, 2015, 05:30 PM
Jan 2015

the main reason for my assertion of the feminine pronoun is to challenge traditional notions that "God" is male. I suspect that if there is a monotheistic "God", "it" is neither female nor male because it has no purpose in pro-creation. At best it might share traits of both genders. But biologically speaking the purpose for gender was to procreate.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,347 posts)
6. An objection in the service, but it was ignored and the service continued
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 08:08 AM
Jan 2015

At the point of the service at which the archbishop asks the congregation "is it your will that she becomes a bishop", the congregation said 'yes' loudly, and then one man said "no, I object, it's against the law, and I wish to be able to state the reasons" (roughly), but the service continued. After a bit more from the archbishop on why she is lawfully becoming a bishop, there was another question to the congregation with a 'yes' answer, and this time there was no objection.

The commentator said he suspects it was a man who has been trying to stop this through the courts, and has been declared a vexatious litigant.

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