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hue

(4,949 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 01:54 PM Jan 2015

U.S. top court rules for employer in retiree benefits fight

Source: REUTERS

(Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday sided with a company that amended a collective bargaining agreement to force retirees to pay toward healthcare costs, throwing out a lower-court ruling that favored the former employees who objected to the change.

On a unanimous vote, the nine-member court handed a win to M&G Polymers USA, a subsidiary of Italy-based chemical company Mossi & Ghisolfi International, by sending the case back for further proceedings in the Cincinnati-based 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Nearly 500 plaintiffs from Ohio who had worked at the M&G polyester plant in Apple Grove, West Virginia, sued in 2006 when the company said retirees would be required to contribute to their healthcare costs.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/26/us-usa-court-retirees-idUSKBN0KZ1UY20150126

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U.S. top court rules for employer in retiree benefits fight (Original Post) hue Jan 2015 OP
WTF? truebrit71 Jan 2015 #1
Those people who sit on that court are removed from reality bigdarryl Jan 2015 #3
Apparently so...must come with a lifetime appointment and a fabulous healthcare plan... truebrit71 Jan 2015 #4
That may be, but this ruling was painfully correct. Adrahil Jan 2015 #16
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Jan 2015 #6
Worst. SCOTUS. EVER! lark Jan 2015 #2
Top court rules lower court used false premise One_Life_To_Give Jan 2015 #5
So this is procedural more than anything else...? truebrit71 Jan 2015 #7
Employees may or may not be screwed One_Life_To_Give Jan 2015 #8
Thanks. "The law is some tricky shit." McCamy Taylor Jan 2015 #9
Thanks for clarifying facts. elleng Jan 2015 #15
As I understand it, probably screwed. Adrahil Jan 2015 #17
This is exactly why I refrain from... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #10
It sounds procedural, sending the case back.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #11
best court heaven05 Jan 2015 #12
Thank you. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #14
What sucks though is the entire case could have been avoided if the union had reviewed the contract cstanleytech Jan 2015 #13
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
4. Apparently so...must come with a lifetime appointment and a fabulous healthcare plan...
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:07 PM
Jan 2015

....the rest of us serfs have to suck it...

Getting harder and harder to believe we have a shot at correcting any of this...I'm beginning to think the oligarchs have won and it's just a matter of time before it all goes completely fucking sideways..

Very depressing...

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
16. That may be, but this ruling was painfully correct.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:20 AM
Jan 2015

The union did a shitty job of ensuring the contract spelled out their understanding.

Don't blame a shitty contact on the Court.

lark

(23,105 posts)
2. Worst. SCOTUS. EVER!
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:03 PM
Jan 2015

They are an embarassment to their profession and at least 5 of them are total political hacks.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
5. Top court rules lower court used false premise
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:14 PM
Jan 2015

The 9-0 ruling is about details of how the 6th circuit ruled in supporting the district courts ruling.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
8. Employees may or may not be screwed
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jan 2015

District Court ruling is in favor of the retired employees. The Circuit court must now go back and review the case based upon ordinary contract law. What was tossed out was the specific way in which the Circuit court justified it's review and support for the lower District court ruling.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
17. As I understand it, probably screwed.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 07:22 AM
Jan 2015

The employer did not do anything prohibited by the contract, so likely that action was legal.

But I'm not a lawyer, so we'll see how this boils down.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
10. This is exactly why I refrain from...
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:40 PM
Jan 2015

forming any sort of opinion about a Supreme Court decision from headlines and a few sentences. It's often more complex than a sound bite can convey. I'll be the first to admit my brain just does not function on a "lawyer" setting. I frequently have to have such things explicitly spelled out to me. Slowly.

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
11. It sounds procedural, sending the case back..
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jan 2015

it's always tricky and stacked against the workers or retirees. I'm almost surprised at the favorable ruling from the 6th circuit. Usually when a matter is left open, the ruling is for the company, go figure!

cstanleytech

(26,294 posts)
13. What sucks though is the entire case could have been avoided if the union had reviewed the contract
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:43 PM
Jan 2015

better and negotiated for the benefits to be lifetime so because of that failure I suspect the company is going to win.

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