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kpete

(72,014 posts)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:35 PM Apr 2012

So ... Ted Nugent Threatened to Assassinate President Obama? (Updated: Secret Service Is On It)

Source: New York Magazine

So ... Ted Nugent Threatened to Assassinate President Obama? - Updated: Secret Service Is On It
We're not sure how else to take this remark from the nutjob guitarist and Romney-endorser: "If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year."

Update: A spokesman for the Secret Service tells us, "We are aware of it, and we'll conduct an appropriate follow up."

Read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/04/ted-nugent-threatened-to-kill-president-obama.html



THE SECRET SERVICE SAYS THEY ARE INVESTIGATING TED NUGENT’S THREATENING REMARKS TOWARD OBAMA | Ted Nugent’s threatening remarks about President Obama at the annual National Rifle Association convention in St. Louis have earned him a follow-up conversation with the Secret Service. On Sunday, the singer remarked that “if Barack Obama becomes the president in November again, I will be either be dead or in jail by this time next year.” The Secret Service, which investigates all threats against the President, confirmed to New York Magazine’s Daily Intel blog that they have in fact flagged Nugent’s comment. “We are aware of it, and we’ll conduct an appropriate follow up,” the agent told the magazine. Nugent endorsed Mitt Romney — albeit reluctantly — via Twitter last month, and at least one Romney, middle son Tagg, was excited about the news. Watch the video of his remarks, courtesy of Right Wing Watch:
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/04/17/465855/secret-service-ted-nugent/
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So ... Ted Nugent Threatened to Assassinate President Obama? (Updated: Secret Service Is On It) (Original Post) kpete Apr 2012 OP
Man, what a dickhead chrisa Apr 2012 #1
Maybe Teddy will shit his pants for real this time thelordofhell Apr 2012 #2
He should have been in jail already for being a pedophile E-Z-B Apr 2012 #3
So I hear AnnieK401 Apr 2012 #90
They always get by with it get the red out Apr 2012 #4
He's a regular on the GOP political tours. He's twisted just like them. freshwest Apr 2012 #54
Nothing Will Happen, No One Will Apologize otohara Apr 2012 #5
+ 1 n/t ejbr Apr 2012 #89
Ted Nugent wore his pants for thirt days to get out of military service. Lint Head Apr 2012 #6
Is this true? GiveMeFreedom Apr 2012 #10
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/proof_ted_nugent_is_a_draft_dodger_will_hannity_keep_defending_h wilsonbooks Apr 2012 #14
He said it himself. The Daily Mail Indepenent story is old and cannot be found but Lint Head Apr 2012 #16
Yes it's true. He's told the story himself many times. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #42
...so how is this guy such a hero to this demographic, many vetetans?! Earth_First Apr 2012 #91
Good Politicalboi Apr 2012 #7
It's very hard to listen to his psychotic rant. Seedersandleechers Apr 2012 #8
I had a friend wilt the stilt Apr 2012 #9
Is there a statue of limitations on pederasty? Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #11
He's not the only one Iliyah Apr 2012 #12
I got his autograph TlalocW Apr 2012 #13
Good story dmr Apr 2012 #73
He's not going to hurt anyone, and the Secret Service knows it. JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #15
He's not gonna hurt anyone because he is a coward who enjoys killing naive animals. Lint Head Apr 2012 #18
He doesn't have the nerve to kill anyone. JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #81
Absolutely. You couldn't have know that he was a hippocrit at that time. Lint Head Apr 2012 #96
Don't be so certain that he wouldn't do it. His words remind hedgehog Apr 2012 #94
Has Ted ever been in an actual fight with anyone or does he just talk tough? mysuzuki2 Apr 2012 #17
Apparently the idea of "country before party" is lost on some people Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #19
Ted is a certifiable nut job, but Meiko Apr 2012 #20
I see it as a threat. He should be arrested. Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #22
He does have a lot of guns Meiko Apr 2012 #24
The SS will check it out because of what he said. PotatoChip Apr 2012 #32
The Ss will visit him as soon as the prostitutes leave their rooms. russspeakeasy Apr 2012 #25
Ted Nugent Liberty-Death Apr 2012 #50
I suppose there are a couple of different ways to take it 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #53
I vote for "dead". nt Cheap_Trick Apr 2012 #21
Why not both? AlbertCat Apr 2012 #29
If donquijoterocket Apr 2012 #43
Spokesperson and member of the Board of Directors of the NRA. safeinOhio Apr 2012 #23
has it occured to anyone in the NRA rank and file gejohnston Apr 2012 #26
He has a constitutional right to be an asshole, unfortunately..... PDJane Apr 2012 #27
Fuck Nugent. Fuck the Republican Death Cult NRA, and EVERYONE who gives them money n/t DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #28
+1 freshwest Apr 2012 #68
massive gun sales increase as black president elected - NRA's fantasy comes true nt msongs Apr 2012 #30
Time to resurrect the "Chuck & Chuck Show" AlbertCat Apr 2012 #31
A disproportionate number of Republicans seem eager to use violence young_at_heart Apr 2012 #33
I was a Nugent fan unionworks Apr 2012 #34
Inherently FALSE dichotomies are RNC stock-in-trade & the source of their power. patrice Apr 2012 #35
A has been rocker with some guitar skills..... MindMover Apr 2012 #36
Appropriate punishment for him bongbong Apr 2012 #37
I would add just one thing to what you suggest Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #84
I would add just one thing to what you suggest Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #85
What a flaming douche-nozzle. Chorophyll Apr 2012 #38
Every time he opens his mouth he gets dumber and dumber! nonoxy9 Apr 2012 #39
What a POS catbyte Apr 2012 #40
Roger that The Wizard Apr 2012 #88
No guitars or young girls in jail, Ted proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #41
Better hope Ted doesn't drop the soap... Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #44
Jamal, that wasn't nice. MADem Apr 2012 #49
Lo siento. Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #64
I don't think Jamal was advocating prison rape, just stating a fact, sex offenders crunch60 Apr 2012 #66
Jamal can speak for himself, and he did. MADem Apr 2012 #71
So you control this message board? I didn't take Jamal's comment like a joke, but crunch60 Apr 2012 #79
You're the one who answered for another poster, not me. nt MADem Apr 2012 #82
Actually, I hope he does. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #63
Hardly a "proud to be lib" position--to hope someone gets raped in custody. MADem Apr 2012 #72
Note to smug Tea Party members. You are consorting with crazy. nolabear Apr 2012 #45
Maybe he meant he'd kill himself or rob a liquor store. caseymoz Apr 2012 #46
re:So ... Ted Nugent Threatened to Assassinate President Obama? (Updated: Secret Service Is On It) allan01 Apr 2012 #47
GOOD. He absolutely should have the Secret Service looking into it. calimary Apr 2012 #48
only like Fred Bear PatrynXX Apr 2012 #51
Secret Service will deal with it ashling Apr 2012 #52
Didn't Homer Simpson endorse Ted Nugent when he become a talk show host? iandhr Apr 2012 #55
No, that was Hannity alfredo Apr 2012 #58
Same guy. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #87
Hannity is a chickenhawk. alfredo Apr 2012 #100
Yes creeksneakers2 Apr 2012 #67
Hopefully he will be in jail notadmblnd Apr 2012 #56
As a guitarist WCGreen Apr 2012 #57
Meanwhile in freeperville... alp227 Apr 2012 #59
Holy crap, they're legitimately crazy. Bladian Apr 2012 #76
"Having more guns than Mendocino Apr 2012 #60
NRA Spokesman Number One. nt onehandle Apr 2012 #61
Ted Nugent's guns should be confiscated immediately Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #62
The gun-centric American Rightwing: Thinking up new ways to imply they'll shoot you since 1867. DirkGently Apr 2012 #65
Chop Their Heads Off jade3000 Apr 2012 #69
Kinda sad really as it sounds more like a washed up drunk musician trying to get attention. cstanleytech Apr 2012 #70
His career must be tanking. Any publicity is good publicity... McCamy Taylor Apr 2012 #74
Old poopy pants is just mouthing off. He's too much of a coward to do anything. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #75
Ted's Gone Off The Deep End colsohlibgal Apr 2012 #77
This guy is a self important Ass Clown Thrill Apr 2012 #78
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Ted's Top Ten . . . tilsammans Apr 2012 #80
Let's see the Repugs rally 'round this POS Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #83
Did you know: Nugent claimed he had no idea that Journey to the Center of the Mind was about drugs. Towlie Apr 2012 #86
Vote Obama in 2012 Botany Apr 2012 #92
WORD. If I even had the slightest trace of apathy about going to the polling place bullwinkle428 Apr 2012 #97
Nugent amuse bouche Apr 2012 #93
I will say this to ted nugents face......I spent 13 months in combat ...didn't see ted nugent.... Namvet67 Apr 2012 #95
They are not investigating Alcibiades Apr 2012 #98
Ted Nugent is a foul mouth idiot. Beacool Apr 2012 #99

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
1. Man, what a dickhead
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:40 PM
Apr 2012

And of course you know that Ted Nugget-brain is a keyboard warrior that runs around playing soldier on his farm. He's too much of a Chickenhawk to get anywhere near Obama.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
2. Maybe Teddy will shit his pants for real this time
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:40 PM
Apr 2012

Like that other time he shit his pants for the government

AnnieK401

(541 posts)
90. So I hear
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 07:48 AM
Apr 2012

He actually got the parents of a 17 yr. old girl that he was "involved with" to sign over custody to him.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
4. They always get by with it
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:41 PM
Apr 2012

If someone is a known RW nutcase, the get buy with saying anything. Of course some nobody nut would be facing some serious interrogation.

Different rules for upper-class nuts and RW nuts. It's pretty sickening, I doubt the Secret Service will do much because HE'S TED.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
5. Nothing Will Happen, No One Will Apologize
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:42 PM
Apr 2012

It's how they operate and the media will ignore it, Ted Nugent is no Hillary Rosen.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
6. Ted Nugent wore his pants for thirt days to get out of military service.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:42 PM
Apr 2012

He urinated and crapped in his pants. When he showed up for the physical they told him he was crazy and to go home.

Ted Nugent is a damn cowardly prick.

GiveMeFreedom

(976 posts)
10. Is this true?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:47 PM
Apr 2012

I hate Ted "nuget in my pants" Nugent, for what he stands for. This is the first time I have heard of this. Is there a link to read? Thanks

Oh, btw, I served my country. USN, VP-1, AW2, Barbers Point, Hawaii, 1975-1979.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
16. He said it himself. The Daily Mail Indepenent story is old and cannot be found but
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:04 PM
Apr 2012

here is one source. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a1_1250550290 I heard him say this myself in an interview. I cannot mention names here but someone who was around him often told me that he bragged about it all the time.

Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
8. It's very hard to listen to his psychotic rant.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:43 PM
Apr 2012

He's just making stuff up, lying, and the crowd cheers him on.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
9. I had a friend
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:45 PM
Apr 2012

who played with him on his new's years eve shows in detroit- his word on Ted- waste of talent

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
11. Is there a statue of limitations on pederasty?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:51 PM
Apr 2012

There are other issues Teh Nuge should be investigated for.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
12. He's not the only one
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:51 PM
Apr 2012

that threatens Pres O's life and the lives of people who do not worship the GOP. For "Christian" they sure are some evil people.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
13. I got his autograph
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:54 PM
Apr 2012

Let me explain. Not a Nugent fan, but when I lived in Tulsa, Ted would routinely come through on the C-List tour of musicians, and he had just put out, "Kill It and Grill It." Being the nice liberal that I am, I decided to buy it for my brother-in-law who is also very conservative (but soft-spoken) as well as a hunter (both gun and bow). So my then-girlfriend at the time (who's Colombian) and I went to the Borders, talked smack in Spanish about all the nutjobs in line with us, and as Ted was signing my copy, I stuck my tongue out while my gf took a picture. He handed it to me and said, "Enjoy that pardner. There's a lot of wisdom in there." I kid you not, I injured myself stifling a laugh. I think Ted was a little confused in that within half a second, my expression went from more or less blank to mirth to pain. I had to take the elevator back down to the 1st floor and sit down on the sidewalk outside until the stitch went away. Then my gf and I went to a restaurant and read passages along the line of, "The point of life is to live, and if you're not living then you have no life."

Gave it to my brother-in-law a few weeks later for which he thanked me profusely. A couple weeks later, I saw him again and asked him if he enjoyed the book, and he sighed and said, "Jamie (still calls me that cuz I was a kid when he married my sister), at first, I thought it was just some kind of weird drug humor that I wasn't getting until I saw him on ESPN, and he really is that big of a dumb-ass. Recipes look good though."

TlalocW

dmr

(28,349 posts)
73. Good story
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:56 PM
Apr 2012

I enjoyed reading it.

Sorry about the mirth to pain, but it gave you a good story to tell.

JohnnyRingo

(18,641 posts)
15. He's not going to hurt anyone, and the Secret Service knows it.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:56 PM
Apr 2012

The problem is that, like most hate mongers, he may inspire someone to do the dirty work for him. I'm sure that'll be the focus of any conversation with The Service.

Someday, someone will do something horrible and openly admit they got their call to action from Nugent, Hannity, or Limbaugh. Such an act should spawn legislation that limits how such people speak to the weak minded masses. I know that's a 1st amendment issue, but there's a difference between stating how much one hates someone and suggesting violent action.

Funny that the people who follow him so religiously wouldn't be able to stand five minutes of his music. He opened for Kenny Wayne Shepherd and Double Trouble about ten years ago, and his show is a horrible spectacle of out of place extended guitar solos and pointed hate speech.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
18. He's not gonna hurt anyone because he is a coward who enjoys killing naive animals.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:07 PM
Apr 2012

I can see him one day becoming new George Zimmerman

JohnnyRingo

(18,641 posts)
81. He doesn't have the nerve to kill anyone.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:55 PM
Apr 2012

He's a career poser who gained peak fame through the song "Journey To The Center Of The Mind". The song was an anthem of mine at a time when LSD was just hitting the mainstream. A few hundred trips later, he proclaimed fans like me "hopeless idiots" and insisted he never used drugs in his life.

Now I'm not saying I didn't have a good time, but it was a clear indicator of the kind of opportunistic sell-out phony he is, and I wouldn't believe a word that comes out of the man's mouth. Ted Nugent says whatever is good for Ted Nugent at the time.

He and Mitt have that in common, so it's little wonder they shared the news cycle today.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
96. Absolutely. You couldn't have know that he was a hippocrit at that time.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:53 AM
Apr 2012

I saw the Amboy Dukes at the Fox Theater in Atlanta opening for Jimmy Hendrix. He sucked then as a player but I would have thought he would end up as an intelligent progressive. But picturing him as an eventual babbling idiot was not on my radar.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
94. Don't be so certain that he wouldn't do it. His words remind
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:04 AM
Apr 2012

me of potential suicides who announce their intentions well ahead of time.

Bruce Wayne

(692 posts)
19. Apparently the idea of "country before party" is lost on some people
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:08 PM
Apr 2012

As is the idea of rule of law. I'm sure Ted's feeling very "oppressed by Big Brother" right about now. Sigh, Freedom of Speech is for assholes too.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
20. Ted is a certifiable nut job, but
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:09 PM
Apr 2012

I don't see what he said as a direct threat...The SS will pay him a visit anyway, it will be good for him.

Liberty-Death

(1 post)
50. Ted Nugent
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:16 PM
Apr 2012

Anyone else would be classified as a "domestic terrorist", wth? If it were any of us on this website, the SWAT team would have already knocked the door down to arrest us. You are exactly right.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
53. I suppose there are a couple of different ways to take it
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:38 PM
Apr 2012

but the most obvious does come across as pretty threatening.

If he meant something else he needs to clarify ASAP and watch himself in the future.

If he meant it as a threat . . . . well that was a pretty stupid thing to say.

/either way I'm sure it's just talk but still, you can't make those threats even jokingly.

donquijoterocket

(488 posts)
43. If
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:31 PM
Apr 2012

He ever goes to jail he'll likely end up that way anyhow there are some truly tough folks there who won't abide his BS.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
26. has it occured to anyone in the NRA rank and file
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:21 PM
Apr 2012

that assholes like Ted and Wayne do more harm to their cause than just about anything else?

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
27. He has a constitutional right to be an asshole, unfortunately.....
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:22 PM
Apr 2012

This kind of stupidity isn't a capital offense.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
28. Fuck Nugent. Fuck the Republican Death Cult NRA, and EVERYONE who gives them money n/t
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:25 PM
Apr 2012

And someone remind the Secret Service to wear gloves. That guy is nasty.

young_at_heart

(3,772 posts)
33. A disproportionate number of Republicans seem eager to use violence
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:38 PM
Apr 2012

Remember all those Republican tea party types who had visible guns at various rallies? In 2010 at Capitol Hill a Tea Party sign threatened gun violence if the health care bill passed. There have been many, many more.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
35. Inherently FALSE dichotomies are RNC stock-in-trade & the source of their power.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:38 PM
Apr 2012

The RNC talks Plausible Deniability out-of-both-sides-of-their-mouths:

TTE, "The RNC can't make Nugent do or not do anything. He has a right to his views. Even if his choice of how to express himself is radical, everyone knows not to take him literally." In the next breath Republicans will extoll the DIVINE VIRTUES of the ultimate, life-or-death, commitment to VALUES, the UNNECESSARY war on Iraq comes to mind, as does also the murder of George Tiller, the shootings at Gabriel Gifford's rally ("Innocent people hurt? Well, shit happens.), and so-called "Stand your ground" gun laws.

All of which demonstrates that all of us SHOULD INDEED take Ted Nugent very VERY seriously, because he is speaking to REAL people willing and capable of hurting others, even if most of them don't engage in direct physical violence, they do take such HATE SPEECH, from celebrities especially, as A BLESSING on anyone to get a buzzzz on for _____________ by acting their delusions out. Nugent/Limbaugh et al speak to those who NEEEEED to find meaning in the struggles of daily life, or just to people operating on knee-jerk reflexes. Pseudo-spiritual DELUSIONS are extremely fertile grounds for violence at ALL levels.

My point here is that Republicans are schizophrenic: they say Nugent's behavior, and other such Republican behavior, does not matter - AND - they say that positions like this and its contingent behaviors ARE manifestations of one's VALUES, which they claim are from God, so acting upon one's values, just like WAR, is evidence of one's true relationship to the divine. IOW, certain behaviors matter ONLY when the RNC, speaking for God, says that they do or don't.

Just like DIVINE-RIGHT monarchs, The-Powers-that-Be USE the confusion generated by "It doesn't matter" & "ULTIMATE commitment to values is salvation" to do WHATEVER they want.

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
36. A has been rocker with some guitar skills.....
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:40 PM
Apr 2012

and a low life 1%er who thinks the world turns on his every word......

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
37. Appropriate punishment for him
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:41 PM
Apr 2012

Put him in a big fenced area with a hungry bear, and just a toy bow-n-arrow to defend himself. When he fills his pants this time, the bear won't care in contrast to the lengths the coward went to avoid Vietnam.

Bombero1956

(3,539 posts)
84. I would add just one thing to what you suggest
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:04 AM
Apr 2012

smother his ass with honey. Let's see how brave you are when a bear is chewing on your pooper.

Bombero1956

(3,539 posts)
85. I would add just one thing to what you suggest
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 02:05 AM
Apr 2012

Smother his ass with honey. Let's see how brave you are when a bear is chewing on your pooper.

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
40. What a POS
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 01:58 PM
Apr 2012

Ted Nugent is nothing but a no-talent draft dodging chickenhawk pedophile animal murderer teabagger and I am ashamed he is from Michigan.



Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Leo, Sophie, Taz & Nigel, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"We ride inside--HISS!”

The Wizard

(12,547 posts)
88. Roger that
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 07:24 AM
Apr 2012

A second hand guitar player with thought disorders and lots of loaded high powered rifles and shotguns. Some people need to be sucker punched. Ted needs to be sucker punched and publicly horse whipped.
And all those NRA loons who cheer his every utterance need a visit from the Secret Service.
Ignorant crackpots with loaded weapons is a recipe for (______) fill in the blank.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
49. Jamal, that wasn't nice.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:11 PM
Apr 2012

Someone alerted on your post and you dodged the bullet, but perhaps you might want to re-read the TOS.

I voted to hide your post. I was in the minority, unfortunately. I'm sure you meant your comment lightheartedly, but that kind of prison rape commentary doesn't go over well here.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
66. I don't think Jamal was advocating prison rape, just stating a fact, sex offenders
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:06 PM
Apr 2012

pedophiles don't do well in general population, they are often raped and so need the protection of a "bubba". Check out what happened to Richard Speck.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
71. Jamal can speak for himself, and he did.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:10 PM
Apr 2012

It is a topic that is "not for jokes" on this message board.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
79. So you control this message board? I didn't take Jamal's comment like a joke, but
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:13 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Wed Apr 18, 2012, 04:24 PM - Edit history (1)

just the way it is for pedophiles/sex offenders in prison. Unfortunate, but true.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
72. Hardly a "proud to be lib" position--to hope someone gets raped in custody.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:12 PM
Apr 2012

The idea is punishment, not torture.

I'm a bit aghast at this subthread.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
45. Note to smug Tea Party members. You are consorting with crazy.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:41 PM
Apr 2012

Just in case you think your rhetoric can't possibly lead to a real horror...I give you Ted Nugent, George Zimmerman, et al.

Wise up before it's too late.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
46. Maybe he meant he'd kill himself or rob a liquor store.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 02:58 PM
Apr 2012

Just sayin'. There's enough wiggle-room in those words to let him weasel out of it. That's the way Limbaugh always escaped.

(Frankly, if Nuggent hadn't hit it big, he'd be in prison already, and not for anything to do with politics.)

Either way, why do I think the rule-of-law, tough-on-crime crowd cheered those very words? They knew what Nuggent was saying, even if he can't be nailed with it.

It's worthwhile for Obama to win just because you know the invective will suddenly go quiet. The Repub propaganda machine has pulled out all the stops against Obama for the last four years, only to assure he's not re-elected. But in the meantime, there have been no purges, no concentration camps, no storm troopers breaking down people's doors (except in the War on Drugs, which the Repubs want). The flames have to be fanned pretty hard to keep up this level of rage. It all becomes moot on November 7th. If Obama wins, I'm thinking things will go pretty quiet.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
47. re:So ... Ted Nugent Threatened to Assassinate President Obama? (Updated: Secret Service Is On It)
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:01 PM
Apr 2012

Id love it so much when one of these folk is made an example of in front of all of the country. either shut up or put away for good , as this is no laughing matter folk. if we did this under ronnie , bush and bush , wed have been locked away. and i still see flush rush is still on

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
51. only like Fred Bear
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:25 PM
Apr 2012

I'm sure there's some good music from Manson. but maybe Ted will be chatting this up with him... at some point.. a year in jail should be doing him some good.

ashling

(25,771 posts)
52. Secret Service will deal with it
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:30 PM
Apr 2012

if they have anybody left to deal with it after prostitute scandal.

alfredo

(60,075 posts)
100. Hannity is a chickenhawk.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:07 PM
Apr 2012

I remember one of his early websites was decorated with a color scheme and iconography reminiscent of some white nationalist groups.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
57. As a guitarist
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:09 PM
Apr 2012

I think he hit his stride with the Amboy Dukes and has been playing the same riff over and over again which of course, makes him the prototypical musician for the one trick pony known as the GOP...

alp227

(32,049 posts)
59. Meanwhile in freeperville...
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:24 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2873259/posts

Summary:

Liberals disrespected Bush worse
The SS is overreacting
The admin is starting to use the NDAA against people like Nugent

Bladian

(475 posts)
76. Holy crap, they're legitimately crazy.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:48 PM
Apr 2012

"Who’s left? Pretty sad it’s tough to come up with a list of brave Americans.

Would it be paranoid to suggest that Members of The Free Republic could be under scrutiny from the 0bama regime? " How do you come up with shit like this? How?

Mendocino

(7,505 posts)
60. "Having more guns than
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:28 PM
Apr 2012

brain cells doesn't make him any less of a coward." a quote of a co-worker of mine, former Green Beret and all around outdoorsman. "Ted won't mess with anything that is capable of fighting back. Put him and me in the backwoods , him with all his weapons and gear, me with nothing but a knife. Within no time, I'll have him face down in the mud with that knife poised on the base of his skull and he won't even have ever seen my face."

I've been in the woods with this guy and I believe his every word.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
65. The gun-centric American Rightwing: Thinking up new ways to imply they'll shoot you since 1867.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:05 PM
Apr 2012

Lock and load. Second Amendment remedies. And what was Ted's other jewel: ""Suck my machine gun [Obama]" " or something similar?

Thank god we're keeping an eye the "New Black Panthers" and that senior citizen that used to be in the Weather Underground.

Lefties can be violent, you know.

jade3000

(238 posts)
69. Chop Their Heads Off
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:30 PM
Apr 2012

And he said "We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November."

That's awfully extreme. But I still see it as protected political free speech.

Crunchy Frog

(26,629 posts)
75. Old poopy pants is just mouthing off. He's too much of a coward to do anything.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:37 PM
Apr 2012

He's the one who pooped in his pants for a week to avoid going to Vietnam.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
77. Ted's Gone Off The Deep End
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:01 PM
Apr 2012

Not only is this guy nuts, he's another chickenhawk pretender. He had a chance to shoot all the people he wanted in Vietnam but like Dubya/Cheney and their crowd did everything he could to dodge going to SE Asia.

Where is all the MSN coverage of Ted's rant? They couldn't get enough of Hillary Rosen. There's that "liberal bias" cretins like Bernie Goldberg like to crow about.

What remains so baffling to me is how so many people let themselves get manipulated to carry water for billionaires and nutzoid crackpots like Nugent......and thus continually vote directly against their own self interests.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
78. This guy is a self important Ass Clown
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:05 PM
Apr 2012

He shouldn't even be given this attention.

No one values his opinion

tilsammans

(2,549 posts)
80. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Ted's Top Ten . . .
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 11:19 PM
Apr 2012

. . . Inflammatory Comments:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201202150010

What. An. Asshole.

And notice how nobody in the Reich Wing dares denounce his vitriolic spew.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
92. Vote Obama in 2012
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 09:00 AM
Apr 2012

Nugent, "If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will be either
be dead or in jail by this time next year."

bullwinkle428

(20,630 posts)
97. WORD. If I even had the slightest trace of apathy about going to the polling place
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:54 AM
Apr 2012

and casting my vote for Obama this fall, this episode in particular completely wiped that away! I will be there on the first day of early voting with bells on, casting my "spell of death"!

Namvet67

(111 posts)
95. I will say this to ted nugents face......I spent 13 months in combat ...didn't see ted nugent....
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:41 AM
Apr 2012

It's because he's a chickenshit, loudmouth, who can't back up his beliefs with action. When the Marines came looking....nugent was hiding......because he's a coward. I understand not wanting to go to any war....but to be such a self-described gun nut and bad ass.....it seems to me if it weren't for his lack of a spine, and blatant hypocrisy, I might have stumbled across him in VietNam.....but he was a no-show...as his kind always are....Cheney...Bush....etc etc. I don't want to offend those that do not want to join the military....just want to show nugent as the Uber Maniac he is....he's a little man with a big mouth....fuck you ted nugent...

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
98. They are not investigating
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:59 AM
Apr 2012

Nugent has no credibility on this: he's a blowhard. It's more likely that someone listening would try something than he would.

It's not a dog whistle. He practically invites anyone in earshot to take up arms against this president, to "kill the cayote". The thing is, though, is that Nugent himself is completely not credible as a potential threatener. Though he says he'll be dead or in prison, in reality we all know he will do nothing, just like he did when he had the chance to fight in a war he supported.

Pretty sure, though, that if someone on the left had said this to an audience of gun owners in the Bush era, they would already have been waterboarded.

The Secret Service has to say they will look at this, but look at what they actually said: they are investigating whether to investigate. They know it's Ted Nugent. They would probably do better to investigate the other people at the convention at random.

What ought to be more concerning is the Romney campaign's embrace of Nugent. Do they not know who he is, and the sort of bombs he likes to throw? This isn't someone who "palled around with" someone 20 years ago: this is someone who endorses, a campagin that welcomes it, and then this immediate acceleration into hyperbolic, violent rhetoric. Their flaccid denial isn't enough: they need to denounce and refudiate.

Beacool

(30,251 posts)
99. Ted Nugent is a foul mouth idiot.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 12:16 PM
Apr 2012

He also said some pretty disturbing things about Hillary and Obama during the last primaries. The guy is a total jerk.

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