They know what they're doing is self-destructive or stupid, but it's who they are. They're not being 'forced' into behaving a certain way, they just do.

Maybe Hillary but not Democrats unless she wins the nomination.

She's a hawk down to her very core.

But this isn't 1968 and American attitudes aren't the same. I don't think you can say with confidence that what happened then will happen today. Mainstream Republicans have been clamoring for more war incessantly. The GOP has its isolationist wing and the Democratic Party has its anti-war wing, but they're minorities in both parties, I'm sure.

Looking closely at public opinion surveys on questions of national security and counter-terrorism, it seems to me that GOP voters prefer bomb-first ask-later by a wide margin and the typical Democratic voter is much more hawkish than the typical DUer.

Hillary's hawkishness is disturbing, but no where near as frightening as, say, a Mike Huckabee or a Rick Perry. I'll still vote Democrat.

each other. I wouldn't sit next to that putz for any reason. I wouldn't hang with bushes, act like a fool by acting poor when she wasn't, I could go on. She has no idea of what life is like for you and me. NO clue. She is compromised and doesn't even know it.

a 'convention', I'll just have to recuse myself from posting any article related to her 'nomination', good or bad (of course that is assuming I'm even able to post in this joint by then).

As it stands now, I'm 'writing in' President Jimmy Carter.

I forget the details -- but Bush the elder had pissed them off by not being sufficiently pro-Israel in some way and Clinton was able to pick up a certain amount of Neocon support.

In a larger sense, though, this goes back to the Truman administration -- or to Kennedy arguing with Nixon about Quemoy and Matsu -- and the time when the Democrats had figured out that being even tougher than Republicans on foreign policy would buy them a certain amount of space to be "soft" on social policy.

It was a flawed bargain even then, but now that the GOP right has demonstrated it can out-crazy anybody on foreign policy, it doesn't even have a pragmatic basis. However, Clinton seems to think it's still possible to go back there.

Giving Clinton credit for it is like when people give credit to stage actors for great scriptwriting. Delivery, sure. Running with it? Yeah.

Bill Clinton deserves no credit for the simple breadth and depth of "It's the Economy, Stupid" as he didn't write it or conceptualize it though.