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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 08:02 AM Oct 2014

Bill Moyers Journal:Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State

There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not explained in Civics 101 or observable to tourists at the White House or the Capitol. The former is traditional Washington partisan politics: the tip of the iceberg that a public watching C-SPAN sees daily and which is theoretically controllable via elections. The subsurface part of the iceberg I shall call the Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power. [1]

During the last five years, the news media has been flooded with pundits decrying the broken politics of Washington. The conventional wisdom has it that partisan gridlock and dysfunction have become the new normal. That is certainly the case, and I have been among the harshest critics of this development. But it is also imperative to acknowledge the limits of this critique as it applies to the American governmental system. On one level, the critique is self-evident: In the domain that the public can see, Congress is hopelessly deadlocked in the worst manner since the 1850s, the violently rancorous decade preceding the Civil War.

Yes, there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country…As I wrote in The Party is Over, the present objective of congressional Republicans is to render the executive branch powerless, at least until a Republican president is elected (a goal that voter suppression laws in GOP-controlled states are clearly intended to accomplish). President Obama cannot enact his domestic policies and budgets: Because of incessant GOP filibustering, not only could he not fill the large number of vacancies in the federal judiciary, he could not even get his most innocuous presidential appointees into office. Democrats controlling the Senate have responded by weakening the filibuster of nominations, but Republicans are sure to react with other parliamentary delaying tactics. This strategy amounts to congressional nullification of executive branch powers by a party that controls a majority in only one house of Congress.

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/


Investigate for yourself
look into COG and how long
Cheney and Rumsfeld were members of it.

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Bill Moyers Journal:Essay: Anatomy of the Deep State (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 OP
More Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #1
Reaching for omniscience (NSA and Parallel Construction) and sweeping most of its deeds under cprise Oct 2014 #13
Yes, dotymed Oct 2014 #2
We thought it couldn't happen here. But it did. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #5
Exactly... WillyT Oct 2014 #3
World wide Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #10
Thank you, Ichingcarpenter. Another look at the deeply disturbing reality of this nation. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #4
Only when the masses become aware of the illusion Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #8
Thank you. I will certainly be voting. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #12
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #6
Democrats have not done enough to weaken the filibuster because yurbud Oct 2014 #7
That's an intersting suppositon. Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #9
They claim they want to save it for when they are minority again yurbud Oct 2014 #11
K&R blackspade Oct 2014 #14

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
1. More
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 08:55 AM
Oct 2014

I generally think Obama is a good guy but up to his neck with the powers that really run things. The secret service shit opened a narrow window to the public .

Anyway another snip from the article but it goes much deeper than what
is really going on.

from the article.


Yes, there is another government concealed behind the one that is visible at either end of Pennsylvania Avenue, a hybrid entity of public and private institutions ruling the country according to consistent patterns in season and out, connected to, but only intermittently controlled by, the visible state whose leaders we choose. My analysis of this phenomenon is not an exposé of a secret, conspiratorial cabal; the state within a state is hiding mostly in plain sight, and its operators mainly act in the light of day. Nor can this other government be accurately termed an “establishment.” All complex societies have an establishment, a social network committed to its own enrichment and perpetuation. In terms of its scope, financial resources and sheer global reach, the American hybrid state, the Deep State, is in a class by itself. That said, it is neither omniscient nor invincible. The institution is not so much sinister (although it has highly sinister aspects) as it is relentlessly well entrenched. Far from being invincible, its failures, such as those in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, are routine enough that it is only the Deep State’s protectiveness towards its higher-ranking personnel that allows them to escape the consequences of their frequent ineptitude.

cprise

(8,445 posts)
13. Reaching for omniscience (NSA and Parallel Construction) and sweeping most of its deeds under
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 06:32 PM
Oct 2014

...the imperative of "national security".

"Mostly in plain sight" my ass!!!

The inverted MO of state & corporate secrecy and individual transparency is even repeated now at state and local levels. I read that in Massachusetts, SWAT teams are private corporations and thus exempt from any transparency or freedom of information requirements. Just the other day, one of these SWAT teams was deployed to handle an individual weilding a knife.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
2. Yes,
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:13 AM
Oct 2014

we have become a fascist nation.
The odds are not good (yet) but I strongly believe that a Bernie Sanders Presidency would expose and hobble this shadow government.
GOTV and hope it still matters.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
10. World wide
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:18 PM
Oct 2014

the cracks in the pavement of the road before us can be repaired together

Or just forget about it.




Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
4. Thank you, Ichingcarpenter. Another look at the deeply disturbing reality of this nation.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:42 AM
Oct 2014

What are we going to do? This cannot continue.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
8. Only when the masses become aware of the illusion
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:43 PM
Oct 2014

This is why the people of the planet know that

ONE. The World Banking system has been exposed of their crimes of manipulating the system to the gains of their psychopathic , narcissistic. needs vs the needs of humanity. Which when we look at what's really happening without the austerity of human consciousness of the deep state, we see further than that.

TWO.
Go ahead and vote and especially organize for your local environment and reality...And vote in the big picture , though I think democracy
can not exist above a certain population level without a rudimentary parliamentary hint or substance of a democracy.

THREE:
The most important
Let people themselves judge for themselves after giving them links and documentation of the correlations of facts and history which reaffirms the deep state existence

IF one start right after world war II and the beginning with operation paperclip, and the origins of the CIA, NSA, NASA, the SS's instrumental involvement within all the nefarious shames we have to bear. in their name for this nation.

But it starts really with FDR and the medal of honor savior revealing the plot or the bankers and industrialists.




yurbud

(39,405 posts)
7. Democrats have not done enough to weaken the filibuster because
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

they would then own any pro-corporate, anti-middle class bills they pass instead of being able to hide behind the skirts of Republican filibusters.

and they would have no excuse for not passing the progressive legislation Democratic constituents elected them to pass.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. That's an intersting suppositon.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:54 PM
Oct 2014

Which I think makes a lot of sense.

BiPartisanship with a psychopathic entity is just an a illusion that drags our reality into the insane.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
11. They claim they want to save it for when they are minority again
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:43 PM
Oct 2014

But during Bush years, they barely used it at all.

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