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undeterred

(34,658 posts)
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:15 PM Nov 2014

The Science of Why We Don’t Believe Science

How our brains fool us on climate, creationism, and the vaccine-autism link.
By Chris Mooney

“A MAN WITH A CONVICTION is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point.” So wrote the celebrated Stanford University psychologist Leon Festinger, in a passage that might have been referring to climate change denial—the persistent rejection, on the part of so many Americans today, of what we know about global warming and its human causes. But it was too early for that—this was the 1950s—and Festinger was actually describing a famous case study in psychology. Festinger and several of his colleagues had infiltrated the Seekers, a small Chicago-area cult whose members thought they were communicating with aliens—including one, “Sananda,” who they believed was the astral incarnation of Jesus Christ. The group was led by Dorothy Martin, a Dianetics devotee who transcribed the interstellar messages through automatic writing. Through her, the aliens had given the precise date of an Earth-rending cataclysm: December 21, 1954. Some of Martin’s followers quit their jobs and sold their property, expecting to be rescued by a flying saucer when the continent split asunder and a new sea swallowed much of the United States. The disciples even went so far as to remove brassieres and rip zippers out of their trousers—the metal, they believed, would pose a danger on the spacecraft.

Festinger and his team were with the cult when the prophecy failed. First, the “boys upstairs” (as the aliens were sometimes called) did not show up and rescue the Seekers. Then December 21 arrived without incident. It was the moment Festinger had been waiting for: How would people so emotionally invested in a belief system react, now that it had been soundly refuted? At first, the group struggled for an explanation. But then rationalization set in. A new message arrived, announcing that they’d all been spared at the last minute. Festinger summarized the extraterrestrials’ new pronouncement: “The little group, sitting all night long, had spread so much light that God had saved the world from destruction.” Their willingness to believe in the prophecy had saved Earth from the prophecy! From that day forward, the Seekers, previously shy of the press and indifferent toward evangelizing, began to proselytize. “Their sense of urgency was enormous,” wrote Festinger. The devastation of all they had believed had made them even more certain of their beliefs.

IN THE ANNALS OF DENIAL, it doesn’t get much more extreme than the Seekers. They lost their jobs, the press mocked them, and there were efforts to keep them away from impressionable young minds. But while Martin’s space cult might lie at the far end of the spectrum of human self-delusion, there’s plenty to go around. And since Festinger’s day, an array of new discoveries in psychology and neuroscience has further demonstrated how our preexisting beliefs, far more than any new facts, can skew our thoughts and even color what we consider our most dispassionate and logical conclusions. This tendency toward so-called “motivated reasoning” helps explain why we find groups so polarized over matters where the evidence is so unequivocal: climate change, vaccines, “death panels,” the birthplace and religion of the president, and much else. It would seem that expecting people to be convinced by the facts flies in the face of, you know, the facts.

The theory of motivated reasoning builds on a key insight of modern neuroscience: Reasoning is actually suffused with emotion (or what researchers often call “affect”). Not only are the two inseparable, but our positive or negative feelings about people, things, and ideas arise much more rapidly than our conscious thoughts, in a matter of milliseconds—fast enough to detect with an EEG device, but long before we’re aware of it. That shouldn’t be surprising: Evolution required us to react very quickly to stimuli in our environment. It’s a “basic human survival skill,” explains political scientist Arthur Lupia of the University of Michigan. We push threatening information away; we pull friendly information close. We apply fight-or-flight reflexes not only to predators, but to data itself.

Read more: https://medium.com/mother-jones/the-science-of-why-we-dont-believe-science-adfa0d026a7e

People respond to scientific or technical evidence in ways that justify their preexisting beliefs.

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SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
2. I do believe science.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:27 PM
Nov 2014

I don't believe in Gods.

I don't run from data, I immerse myself in it.

I don't push threatening information away.

I don't fit this scenario at all.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
3. This would explain some people's negative reaction to GMOs.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:41 PM
Nov 2014

Every major scientific community in the world accepts GMOs as cool, but some bloggers have managed to convince many people GMOs are evil.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
8. "Every major scientific community in the world".. hm--m-m, can you expand on that or site some
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 05:48 PM
Nov 2014

...scientific 'Communities'. Even better confirm and document that "every 'major' 'scientfic community' "accepts" GMOs.

Actually, your statement is rather simplistic.

Scientists, when evaluating a technology or technique, generally examine the advantages and the risks of said technology or technique. Saying that scientific "communities" (whatever that means) "accepts" GMOs is quite simplistic.

Here is what the Union of Concerned Scientists has to say about GMOs (you should read athe entire article what follows is just an excerpt): http://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/food-agriculture/our-failing-food-system/genetic-engineering-agriculture#.VGfA-cscymw
(emphases are my own)


While the risks of genetic engineering are often exaggerated or misrepresented, GE crops do have the potential to cause a variety of health problems and environmental impacts. For instance, they may spread undesirable traits to weeds and non-GE crops, produce new allergens and toxins, or harm animals that consume them.

[font size=+1"]At least one major environmental impact of genetic engineering has already reached critical proportions: overuse of herbicide-tolerant GE crops has spurred an increase in herbicide use and an epidemic of herbicide-resistant "superweeds," which will lead to even more herbicide use.

[font color="red"]How likely are other harmful GE impacts to occur? This is a difficult question to answer. Each crop-gene combination poses its own set of risks.[/font] While risk assessments are conducted as part of GE product approval, the data are generally supplied by the company seeking approval, and GE companies use their patent rights to exercise tight control over research on their products.

In short, there is a lot we don't know about the long-term and epidemiological risks of GE—which is no reason for panic, but a good reason for caution, particularly in view of alternatives that are more effective and economical.[/font]
(more)



also note:
" ...the lack of evidence of negative effects does not mean that new genetically modified foods are without risk. The possibility of long-term effects from genetically modified plants cannot be excluded and must be examined on a case-by-case basis. New techniques are being developed to address concerns, such as the possibility of the unintended transfer of antibiotic-resistance genes."


[font size="3"] The rather significant question that has been raised re GMOs is that when it comes to genetic alterations do we know the LONG TERM IMPACTS on the ENVIRONMENT and on the organisms CONSUMING the GMOs [/font](and the organisms consuming the organisms that consumed the GMOs - i.e. human beings). There is a paucity of LONG TERM STUDIES of the affects of GMOs on the environment. To this point the manufacturers of GMOs have no answer other than: "We don't think there will be any problems."


Note the Union of Concerned Scientists observation that GMOs: "they may spread undesirable traits to weeds and non-GE crops, produce new allergens and toxins, or harm animals that consume them."


Use of the word "may" in that statement is interesting since in the next sentence they point out that the use of GMOs has resulted in: "an epidemic of herbicide-resistant "superweeds,"."

[font size="+1"]So, we see new traits put into GMOs have been transferred to other plants in the environment. Does anything say: "We need more research as to GMOs possible effects on the environment." THAN THAT?? [/font]


ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
12. Major scientific communities would be
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 06:13 AM
Nov 2014

the largest ones in each country, and WHO, which is a major, very well known, international scientific organization. The largest scientific organization in the world is the AAAS. They claim GMOs are just as safe as other foods. They believe this because the vast majority of studies on GMOs conclude that GMOs are cool. There are some studies that say otherwise, but these studies are an extreme minority.

4139

(1,893 posts)
5. 1949 Nobel Prize for the Lobotomy!
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:59 PM
Nov 2014

Yes, the Lobotomy was the great cure for mental illness. Lame scientific group-think lead to the harming of thousand.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
7. "People respond to scientific or technical evidence in ways that justify their preexisting beliefs."
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 04:53 PM
Nov 2014

THis statement is in the absolute. YOu cannot assert that all people, in every case, respond to scientific or technical evidence "in ways that justify their preexisting beliefs"

THis may suffice as a statement of belief, or superstition but it is not a sound generalization to make based on the evidence. IF there were NO CASES of people responding to scientifically based conclusions in a manner which required them to overturn their previously held ideas or theories - we would have made no progress at all over the millenia.

There are plenty of examples of people rising above prejudices - based on application of sound reasoning and unbiased examination of the evidence.

to say "People respond to scientific or technical evidence in ways that justify their preexisting beliefs." - is to say there is no science. Or at least that there is no point in pursuing rational, fact based understanding of our environment - (which includes, by the way, other human beings).

... an absurd, reductionist line of anti-reason of futility. Nonsense! If we thought THAT way - why then WE'D ALL BE CONSERVATIVES!! NO THANKS!





undeterred

(34,658 posts)
9. Does anyone at DU ever read the article at the link?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 07:33 PM
Nov 2014

I mean, read the whole article, so they can try to understand what an author is saying?

From the responses, I think not.

11. That's heresy you're talking!
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 09:25 PM
Nov 2014

It could be worse. They could be freaking out about Chris Mooney's name being attached because he once said maybe we shouldn't be asswipes to people who believe in religion, and the Templeton Foundation gave him a grant.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
13. This isn't the first time this article has been posted, you know.
Sun Nov 16, 2014, 11:33 AM
Nov 2014

March 29, 2014 - With link to an article from March 2011:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101689327


June 19, 2013:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101666414

Apr 22, 2011,
Jun 18, 2011,

And on, and on, and on.

So just because we don't comment on the article directly, does not mean we haven't read the article at least once, and commented on it before at least once.

Cheers.

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