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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:04 PM Dec 2014

Scathing report calls for war crimes inquiry into CIA health professionals (Salon)

The health professionals who helped develop and carry out the Central Intelligence Agency’s torture program against terrorism suspects violated basic principles of the health profession and should be investigated for war crimes, the group Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) declared Tuesday, one week after the Senate Intelligence Committee released the executive summary of its investigation into the CIA’s detention and interrogation program.

In a blistering report, the group urged the creation of a federal commission that would probe health professionals’ involvement in the CIA’s use of torture. Two CIA-employed psychologists, James Mitchell and Bruce Jessen, have come under scrutiny for their central role in developing the detention and interrogation program. Mitchell and Jessen, who had no experience conducting interrogations themselves but whose company nevertheless received $81 million from the CIA, recommended torture techniques based on the military’s Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape (SERE) program, which the armed forces developed during the Korean War in part to train military personnel for potential torture by enemy captors.

“Under the auspices of the Bush administration, the CIA systematically tortured suspected terrorist detainees, in at least one instance to the point of death. This torture program heavily relied on the participation and active engagement of health professionals to commit, conceal, and attempt to justify these crimes,” the PHR report states.

According to the report, health professionals involved in the torture program may have violated federal and international laws, including the Nuremberg Code devised after the Second World War, banning inhuman and degrading treatment of detainees.

Link: http://www.salon.com/2014/12/16/scathing_report_calls_for_war_crimes_inquiry_into_cia_health_professionals/

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Scathing report calls for war crimes inquiry into CIA health professionals (Salon) (Original Post) inanna Dec 2014 OP
We assume, perhaps safely, that our the torturers working for our government are the "good guys," JDPriestly Dec 2014 #1
Wish I could recommend your reply! inanna Dec 2014 #3
Well Done. bvar22 Dec 2014 #5
81 million dollars to devise torture techniques. True blood money. (nt) enough Dec 2014 #2
Judas Iscariot only got 30 pieces of silver vlyons Dec 2014 #7
Prosecute. eom. JEB Dec 2014 #4
So, if we just want to do the same thing to them that they... world wide wally Dec 2014 #6
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #8

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. We assume, perhaps safely, that our the torturers working for our government are the "good guys,"
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 06:20 PM
Dec 2014

and that the people being tortured are the "evil-doers." And so, we and many Americans think the torture program was OK. Maybe it wasn't even torture, many think.

But even if that is true today, to judge the ethics and morality of the torture program for its universal and ultimate value, we have to ask, what if the tables are turned?

What if the people doing the torturing, the people trying to find information through torture or "enhanced interrogation" are the "evil-doers"? And what if those "evil-doers" are as convinced as we are that they, not we are the good guys?

What then?

If torture is OK because, after all, it is being used to help the good guys, then can the "evil-doers" justify it by arguing that after all, they are in fact the good guys and therefore it is OK for them to use torture?

Laws have to be applied universally or at least written and obeyed as if they should or could be applied universally.

There can't be one law for the good guys and a different law for the evil-doers.

There can't be one code of behavior, one set of rules for good guys and another for evil-doers.

That is a big mistake that we make.

We don't want to be tortured or to have our soldiers tortured. We should not be torturing others. One law should apply to all.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
5. Well Done.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 07:05 PM
Dec 2014

There are survivors of weddings in Afghanistan from American Drone attacks that are certain they are the "good guys" as they pursue jihad against the country that killed their relatives and children.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
7. Judas Iscariot only got 30 pieces of silver
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 08:45 PM
Dec 2014

He should have held out for more ... Afterall Jesus was a threat to the international security of the Roman Empire, and he roused up the base against the ultra-rich Jewish priestly class that ran the temple and kissed Roman ass.

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