Who Should be Blamed for Muslim Terrorism?
The West is Manufacturing Muslim Monsters
by ANDRE VLTCHEK
A hundred years ago, it would have been unimaginable to have a pair of Muslim men enter a cafe or a public transportation vehicle, and then blow themselves up, killing dozens. Or to massacre the staff of a satirical magazine in Paris! Things like that were simply not done.
When you read the memoirs of Edward Said, or talk to old men and women in East Jerusalem, it becomes clear that the great part of Palestinian society used to be absolutely secular and moderate. It cared about life, culture, and even fashion, more than about religious dogmas.
The same could be said about many other Muslim societies, including those of Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt and Indonesia. Old photos speak for themselves. That is why it is so important to study old images again and again, carefully.
Islam is not only a religion; it is also an enormous culture, one of the greatest on Earth, which has enriched our humanity with some of the paramount scientific and architectural achievements, and with countless discoveries in the field of medicine. Muslims have written stunning poetry, and composed beautiful music. But above all, they developed some of the earliest social structures in the world, including enormous public hospitals and the first universities on earth, like The University of al-Qarawiyyin in Fez, Morocco.
The idea of social was natural to many Muslim politicians, and had the West not brutally interfered, by overthrowing left-wing governments and putting on the throne fascist allies of London, Washington and Paris; almost all Muslim countries, including Iran, Egypt and Indonesia, would now most likely be socialist, under a group of very moderate and mostly secular leaders.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/09/who-should-be-blamed-for-muslim-terrorism/
yurbud
(39,405 posts)and through proxies, we killed the lefties and backed fundamentalists who don't spend a lot of time worrying about economics.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Gives a chilling picture of how this actually worked there: businessmen pointed out suspected lefties to gangster thugs doing double duty as paramilitaries.
Amid the killers telling stories of their butchery, one takes time out to shake down a small shop owner for protection money, in a scene straight out of the SOPRANOS, only it was real.
It is hard to think of a clearer example of our government killing democracy instead of nurturing it abroad.
reorg
(3,317 posts)I'm going to watch it right now.
The Indonesian original (without subtitles in English) is available for free on Youtube:
Werner Herzog and Errol Morris talk about "The Act of Killing"
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Warpy
(111,359 posts)coincides with the huge investment in radical Wahabbist schools around the Sunni Muslim world by factions within the Saudi royal family.
Hamfisted colonialist politicians didn't do this by themselves, although by toppling moderate democratically elected leaders and installing puppet dictators, they did nothing to endear the population to the west.
4139
(1,893 posts)SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Vltchek is an admirer of North Korea's government, just to show his general level of insanity.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/08/02/north-korea-celebrates-60th-anniversary-of-victory/
One step above the ISIS YouTube stars.
reorg
(3,317 posts)also an interesting read. Nothing which would indicate he is "an admirer of North Korea's government", but still, the impressions and pictures from an 8-day visit are much more than we usually get from our media.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)He never overcame his Soviet brainwashing.
Outside the capital I saw green fields, and farmers walking home deep in the countryside. Clearly, there was no malnutrition among children, and despite the embargo, everyone was decently dressed.
Yes, no malnutrition in North Korea. Just a fabrication of the evil imperialists.
Everyone is overjoyed with everything. And of course no restrictions on his movements or what he could write.
I feel sorry for anyone who cannot see through such obvious propaganda.
He is also a cheerleader for the vile regime in Eritrea.
This is a man who would have volunteered to drive a tank over protestors to protect the honor of Stalin.
reorg
(3,317 posts)mentioned in post #2, with and about the mass-murdering thugs who killed 1 million Communists in Indonesia. They tell and reenact every detail, not fearing any repercussions since the statute of limitations has run out. Asked if they fear the ICC, they laugh and say: look what happened in Iraq. The Geneva Conventions mean nothing. We are going to have a Jakarta Convention.
At the time, they didn't even need a fake religious justification like the IS claim to have. These Indonesian friends of the West are just gangsters, that's what they call themselves, what they were and still are known for. All they needed was money and the Elvis movies they liked to watch. You can go visit them in Jakarta and ride the bus right beside them.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)Reagan basically told Zia "further, harder, faster" in introducing Salafism there and in Afghanistan against Kabul and Moscow there (the goal was to "give the USSR its own Vietnam" or whatever), turning it from one thread among many to a political (or even technocratic) tool to lock everyone else out of power; to be fair not all the mujahedeen were proto-Taliban--some were simply druglords; by Bush I Zia had been mango'ed, 80s-style geopolitics bored us, and we dumped our "Afghan Arab" go-betweens like rotten spaghetti noodles and expected them to just ... disappear, I guess?
(Nixon backed them in Bangladesh as well)
now of course we loved AQ in Libya and still do in Syria, and are backing Iran against ISIS's wreaking vengeance on our "Salvador option" Shiite death squads
we're not just bad at what we do, we are so on a level that makes Clark Griswold seem like James Bond