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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 10:14 AM Jan 2015

GOP's New Social Security Playbook: Pit The Disabled Against Retirees

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/gop-social-security-divide-and-conquer-retired-disabled

Conservatives have long searched for an effective message against Social Security. Now, they seem to have found a new one to try as they set up a fight over the 80-year-old program in the coming Congress: The disabled are robbing the retired.

Social Security advocates describe it almost invariably as the "divide-and-conquer" strategy: Pit the program's two funds -- the retirement and disability programs -- against each other. The disability fund won't be able to pay its full benefits starting in late 2016, and House Republicans passed a rule earlier this month stating that they won't allow a transfer of tax revenue from the retirement fund to cover the shortfall, as has been done multiple times on a bipartisan basis, most recently in 1994, unless Social Security's overall solvency is improved.

Republicans have been clear that they intend to use the need for reallocation as leverage to force a debate about the disability program -- and perhaps, some conservatives hope and Democrats warn, Social Security as a whole.

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GOP's New Social Security Playbook: Pit The Disabled Against Retirees (Original Post) antigop Jan 2015 OP
for those of you who "needed a reason to vote" is this good enough? belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #1
how many Dems will go along with it? nt antigop Jan 2015 #2
hopefully none but you never know with dems belzabubba333 Jan 2015 #4
Be interesting to see how this plays out in the bi-partisanship farce, er, game. djean111 Jan 2015 #3
+1000. nt antigop Jan 2015 #5
+ another Scuba Jan 2015 #7
big problem greymattermom Jan 2015 #6
They can make that their message, we need to onecaliberal Jan 2015 #8
this is a barganing chip, nothing more. Herself Jan 2015 #9
Let's pit the poor against the rich instead. nt bemildred Jan 2015 #10
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Be interesting to see how this plays out in the bi-partisanship farce, er, game.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jan 2015

There are Democrats who may support this. I won't vote for them, any more than I would vote GOP. And NOW is the time to identify possible candidates for any office, who might think that this is a viable solution.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
6. big problem
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jan 2015

Obesity and the poor health of Americans will increase the number of disabled. Anyone who has type 2 diabetes as a teen will have a huge risk for disability before age 67. I haven't seen this in the projections. Maybe the Dems need to focus on improving health, not just on health insurance.

onecaliberal

(32,863 posts)
8. They can make that their message, we need to
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jan 2015

Make sure everyone knows they are cutting SS but protecting the wealthy from paying a single dime. It's wrong, immoral and outrageous that these evil fucks get away with this.

Herself

(185 posts)
9. this is a barganing chip, nothing more.
Tue Jan 27, 2015, 06:15 AM
Jan 2015

Reducing disability income will put the recipients below state poverty levels and qualify them for state social safety nets that they presently do not qualify for.

Soc Sec Dis is always set just above qualifiers for assistance..

This means that red states will end up shelling out millions of STATE dollars in programs that are mandated by the FED.

I suggest people don't get their bloomers in a bunch.

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