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OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:27 PM Feb 2015

Southern California Edison IT workers 'beyond furious' over H-1B replacements

About 500 IT jobs are cut at utility through layoffs and voluntary departures

Feb 4, 2015 12:06 PM PT

Information technology workers at Southern California Edison (SCE) are being laid off and replaced by workers from India. Some employees are training their H-1B visa holding replacements, and many have already lost their jobs.

The employees are upset and say they can't understand how H-1B guest workers can be used to replace them.

The IT organization's "transition effort" is expected to result in about 400 layoffs, with "another 100 or so employees leaving voluntarily," SCE said in a statement. The "transition," which began in August, will be completed by the end of March, the company said.

"They are bringing in people with a couple of years' experience to replace us and then we have to train them," said one longtime IT worker. "It's demoralizing and in a way I kind of felt betrayed by the company."

More: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2879083/southern-california-edison-it-workers-beyond-furious-over-h-1b-replacements.html
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Southern California Edison IT workers 'beyond furious' over H-1B replacements (Original Post) OhioChick Feb 2015 OP
The company my husband used to work for outsourced two entire departments. CrispyQ Feb 2015 #1
Need H1b workers cause no competent US workers. on point Feb 2015 #2
That's the part that shows what a complete scam the H1-B program is. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #3
the company is not only betraying their employees Skittles Feb 2015 #4
The employees can't understand? Starry Messenger Feb 2015 #5
This really should be illegal imo. nt cstanleytech Feb 2015 #6
It's a really cute work-around - the utility isn't hiring H1-B workers, hedgehog Feb 2015 #8
"STEM shortage!" "Asia's eating our lunch!" "we're spending too much on art, history, and music!" MisterP Feb 2015 #7
The H1B program is a failure dbackjon Feb 2015 #9
What? I don't understand. Sentath Feb 2015 #10
Where is the "success" in the OP? arcane1 Feb 2015 #14
It seems obvious that SCE expects to pay the new workers less. Sentath Feb 2015 #15
K&R. nt antigop Feb 2015 #11
K&R ChromeFoundry Feb 2015 #12
Nice to know I'm not the only one. Mickey Foley Feb 2015 #13
Who would train their replacement? 4dsc Feb 2015 #16

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
1. The company my husband used to work for outsourced two entire departments.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:29 PM
Feb 2015

They had to train their Indian replacements to get their severance. My husband quit before he would do that. We're lucky we have no debt.

on point

(2,506 posts)
2. Need H1b workers cause no competent US workers.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:50 PM
Feb 2015

That's why competent US workers needed to train H1b workers. Corp can't afford to train US workers but can afford to train replacements

Sarcasm

Every H1b worker should be taxed to corp at twice their rate, limited to 6 months, and corp must show they are engaged in traing program for US workers to replace the 'needed' H1b worker. Let's see if it is still cheaper for H1b workers then


There is no shortage of US workers. Only corp lies

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. That's the part that shows what a complete scam the H1-B program is.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 01:03 PM
Feb 2015

They always claim they can't find workers in the US, but time and again, we see people who already DO the jobs being fired and replaced, and training non-US workers instead of other US citizens to be those replacements.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
4. the company is not only betraying their employees
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 01:29 PM
Feb 2015

they're betraying their country - all you H1B defenders can fuck yourselves

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
8. It's a really cute work-around - the utility isn't hiring H1-B workers,
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:32 PM
Feb 2015

the India based companies the utility has contracted with has hired them.

Time to tighten the laws!

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. "STEM shortage!" "Asia's eating our lunch!" "we're spending too much on art, history, and music!"
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:17 PM
Feb 2015

"STEM shortage!" "Asia's eating our lunch!" "we're spending too much on art, history, and music!" "STEM shortage!" "Asia's eating our lunch!" "we're spending too much on art, history, and music!" "STEM shortage!" "Asia's eating our lunch!" "we're spending too much on art, history, and music!" "STEM shortage!" "Asia's eating our lunch!" "we're spending too much on art, history, and music!"

Sentath

(2,243 posts)
10. What? I don't understand.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:50 PM
Feb 2015

How could you post that in reply to an article about one of it's more public successes?

Sentath

(2,243 posts)
15. It seems obvious that SCE expects to pay the new workers less.
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:45 PM
Feb 2015

And being H-1B's they have reduced options to change jobs, so I expect conditions to be harsher. In what way is this all not a pure win for cheap labor international capital?

Mickey Foley

(3 posts)
13. Nice to know I'm not the only one.
Fri Feb 6, 2015, 01:04 PM
Feb 2015

I worked at Ameriprise in Minneapolis until last year, and there were many people from India working there. They had jobs that millions of unemployed Americans would be happy to have and could easily do. This isn't a question of unqualified American workers; it's a matter of wage arbitrage. Indians and millions of other people across the world will do these jobs for much less than Americans expect/need to be paid. Also, you can treat them like crap and they won't complain.

We (the middle class) let the manufacturing base be offshored, because those were working-class jobs. But now it's happening to white-collar jobs, and they have the audacity to bring the foreign workers here to take our jobs. I don't know the term for this, since it's basically the opposite of offshoring.

Of course, if you complain about it, you're often labeled "anti-immigrant" or even "racist," but the fact is that we're in a global competition for jobs, and we're losing, not because we're "unqualified," but because we expect to be able to maintain a middle-class lifestyle. I don't think that kind of compensation package is too much to ask, considering the executives of these companies are richer than Croesus.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
16. Who would train their replacement?
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 02:14 PM
Feb 2015

If you don't train them then they cannot do the job. I'd quit before training some new to replace me.

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