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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 10:51 PM Feb 2015

The new Cold War: Putin issues chilling new threat as Nato chief says tensions with Russia could...

The new Cold War: Putin issues chilling new threat as Nato chief says tensions with Russia could end in 'all out conflict'

By Larisa Brown for the Daily Mail
Published: 08:45 EST, 20 February 2015

Military chiefs have warned that Britain has entered a new Cold War with Russia, as Vladimir Putin threatened anyone who tried to pressure his country.

Amid growing tensions over Ukraine, Putin said ‘no one should have any illusions that it’s possible to achieve military superiority over Russia or apply any kind of pressure on it’.

Adding that his forces would always have an ‘adequate response’, he vowed to step up an ambitious military modernisation, with hundreds of new combat jets, missiles and other weapons.

His comments sparked renewed concern about the UK’s capability to cope in the event of a conflict with Russia.

Britain’s top military commander in Nato spoke of an ‘era of constant competition with Russia’, while a former RAF chief said the UK was in ‘a different sort of Cold War.’



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2961643/Russia-tensions-trigger-war-Britain-s-NATO-commander-warns-Soviet-style-tactics-pose-existential-threat-being.html#ixzz3SLOuleoI




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The new Cold War: Putin issues chilling new threat as Nato chief says tensions with Russia could... (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2015 OP
I wonder GP6971 Feb 2015 #1
If he is, he's a fool. BillZBubb Feb 2015 #2
I agree with you GP6971 Feb 2015 #4
It is misleading to simply compare Russia to Great Britain. BillZBubb Feb 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #5
Nice comparison, now add the 27 other NATO countries, including the braddy Feb 2015 #6
Folks completely miss the point. The posturing is defensive. newthinking Feb 2015 #7

GP6971

(31,165 posts)
1. I wonder
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 11:00 PM
Feb 2015

is Putin trying to implement a similar program that the US (and to a lesser extent NATO members) used to bankrupt the USSR in the 80s culminating in the demise of the USSR?

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. If he is, he's a fool.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:15 AM
Feb 2015

First, the demise of the USSR had little to do with us bankrupting them. That's reagan propaganda. The USSR collapsed because after Brezhnev died, there weren't any younger party members willing to prop up the system with a bloodbath if necessary. All the old Bolshevik fanatics had died off. Guys like Gorbachev understood the system was fatally flawed.

Second, Putin is the one with an economy in deep trouble. Without oil revenues, Russia doesn't have much going for it. The US has plenty of wealth available to be called on if necessary to far surpass anything Russia can do militarily.

GP6971

(31,165 posts)
4. I agree with you
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:25 AM
Feb 2015

I'm not saying our buildup was the primary factor for the USSRs demise. It did contribute to it though.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
3. It is misleading to simply compare Russia to Great Britain.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:20 AM
Feb 2015

Any war with Russia involving Great Britain would invariably involve the US as well.

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braddy

(3,585 posts)
6. Nice comparison, now add the 27 other NATO countries, including the
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 12:31 AM
Feb 2015

United States, into the British column, and remember that Russia depends largely on 1 year draftees.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
7. Folks completely miss the point. The posturing is defensive.
Sat Feb 21, 2015, 02:56 AM
Feb 2015

All of Putin's talk about capabilities is around any potential effort to attack or undermine the country.

The reality is that Russia could not win an offensive war against the west, so they want to make sure that the hawks (neocons and neolibs) understand that what they do have is the capability to react to an attack or provocation.

I know that the media wants us to be hysterically afraid, but if you pay attention that is what is going on.

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