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polly7

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Sun Feb 22, 2015, 09:50 AM Feb 2015

Greece: ‘third world’ aid and debt

By Michael Roberts
Source: Michael Roberts Blog
February 22, 2015

One of the cruel ironies of the last minute deal between the Eurogroup and the Greek government for a four month extension to the existing ‘aid’ programme monitored by the Troika is that in any sane meaning it is not aid at all.

In return for staying in the Troika programme for another four months to end-June and keeping to the still to be agreed conditions on fiscal targets, government spending and privatisations, the Eurogroup, the ECB and the IMF will disburse the outstanding tranches of loans under the existing programme. The FT might call this “aid” but it is nothing of the kind. It is not even bailout money for Greek banks. The €11bn funding for that has been returned by the Greeks to the Troika who are keeping it for ‘security’.


.....But most of that will be immediately recycled back to the Troika as repayments of debt and interest for previous loans and government bonds that are maturing. In the upcoming four months, the IMF must be paid back €5.3bn while the Greeks must also roll over short-term T-bills bought by the Greek banks worth about €11bn. So the Troika ‘aid’ will just disappear and the Greek people will see none of it to help with government spending.


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This is just like ‘Third World’ aid that used to be distributed by the World Bank and other international agencies back in the 1980s and 1990s. Most of this ‘aid’ ended up in corrupt dictators’ pockets or in repaying previous debt. The people never saw it. And the debt levels stayed where they were, as they do for Greece now.

Back then, eventually the international agencies agreed what was called a Brady debt swap that wrote off a portion of the debt that could never be repaid. No such plan is available to Greece, although Syriza asked for it in their negotiations with the Eurogroup.


https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/greece-third-world-aid-and-debt/

Germany owes Greece money for the war – but morality needn’t come into it
Hagen Fleischer

Instead of focusing on the emotionally charged issue of reparations for the second world war, Berlin and Athens should set up a future fund for the joint rehabilitation of a ‘shared’ history

Nazi Germany’s 3.5-year occupation of Greece was bloody and destructive. The Paris reparations conference in 1945 accepted calculations that estimated damage to Greece to amount to 7bn pre-war US dollars. It should be made clear that this wasn’t automatically the suggested reparation payment, as often has been maintained by Greek politicians and journalists: the purpose of the conference was not to come up with absolute sums but to work out percentages of a then still unspecified reparations pool.


Yet it’s important in this case to make a distinction between reparation payments for war crimes and repayments of so-called Besatzungsanleihe: monthly loans demanded from the Greek government in 1942-44 to pay for the maintenance costs of the German army in Greece and further military activity in the Mediterranean, even delivering food from starving Greece to Rommel’s “Afrika-Korps”. In early 1945, in the final days of the Third Reich, a group of high-ranking German economists calculated this “German debt (Reichsschuld) to the Greek state” to amount to 476m Reichsmarks, which would be roughly €10bn today.


This would however require a major change of attitude on Germany’s behalf. Only Berlin has the power to open talks about a historic consolidation with Greece. Until then, we continue to exist with an absurd situation where democratically elected German postwar governments of all colours continue to be in denial about the existence of this debt, which was officially recognised even by the Nazi regime.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/10/germany-greece-second-world-war-reparations

Get the rest of your money, Greece.



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Greece: ‘third world’ aid and debt (Original Post) polly7 Feb 2015 OP
Yes, it is important to distinguish between reparations and the repayment of the forced loan. potone Feb 2015 #1

potone

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1. Yes, it is important to distinguish between reparations and the repayment of the forced loan.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:20 AM
Feb 2015

But in either case, the Greeks won't get paid back. The real issue now is whether they will continue to have austerity forced upon them despite the fact that all it is doing is getting them deeper in debt. The attitude of German politicians towards the Greeks has been so moralistic and condescending that it is nauseating. Yes, Greece is not blameless, but it is also true that when the Greek government in the midst of the crisis tried to cancel orders for arms from German companies, the German government wouldn't let them do it despite the fact that they were demanding severe cuts in pensions, pay and civil service jobs at the same time. So I have very little sympathy for the German position, which is irrational and punitive. This is disaster capitalism, and it has to stop!

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