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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:22 PM Apr 2015

The Clinton Dynasty’s Horrific Legacy: How “Tough-On-Crime” Politics Built The World’s Largest...

The Clinton Dynasty’s Horrific Legacy: How “Tough-On-Crime” Politics Built The World’s Largest Prison System

Hillary Clinton wants to run for president as an economic populist, as a humane progressive interested in bolstering the fortunes of poor and middle class Americans. But before liberals enthusiastically sign up for Team Hillary, they should remember this: In the late 1990s, Bill Clinton played in instrumental role in creating the world’s largest prison system — one that has devastated our inner cities, made a mockery of American idealism abroad, and continues to inflict needless suffering on millions of people. And he did it with his wife’s support.

That liberals are now being asked to get excited for Hillary’s Clinton’s candidacy, announced on Sunday, almost requires the suspension of disbelief. That the best progressive alternative to Clinton is a long-shot from Vermont is a tragedy. This is not to say that President Hillary Clinton would pursue the same prison policies as her husband — the political headwinds on criminal justice reform have shifted considerably in the past two decades, and the Clintons, accordingly, have shifted with them. But past actions should matter, and what they show is that the Clinton Dynasty embraced and exacerbated one of the late 20th Century’s greatest public policy disasters.

The explosion of the prison system under Bill Clinton’s version of the “War on Drugs” is impossible to dispute. The total prison population rose by 673,000 people under Clinton’s tenure — or by 235,000 more than it did under President Ronald Reagan, according to a study by the Justice Policy Institute. “Under President Bill Clinton, the number of prisoners under federal jurisdiction doubled, and grew more than it did under the previous 12-years of Republican rule,combined,” states the JPI report (italics theirs). The federal incarceration rate in 1999, the last year of the Democrat’s term, was 42 per 100,000 — more than double the federal incarceration rate at the end of President Reagan’s term (17 per 100,000), and 61 percent higher than at the end of President George Bush’s term (25 per 100,000), according to JPI.

Just before the New Hampshire primary, Bill Clinton famously flew back to Arkansas to personally oversee the execution of a mentally impaired African-American inmate named Ricky Ray Rector. The “New Democrat” spoke on the campaign trail of being tougher on criminals than Republicans; and the symbolism of the Rector execution was followed by a series of Clinton “tough on crime” measures, including: a $30 billion crime bill that created dozens of new federal capital crimes; new life-sentence rules for some three-time offenders; mandatory minimums for crack and crack cocaine possession; billions of dollars in funding for prisons; extra funding for states that severely punished convicts; limited judges’ discretion in determining criminal sentences; and so on. There is very strong evidence that these policies had a small impact on actual crime rates, totally out of proportion to their severity.

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The Clinton Dynasty’s Horrific Legacy: How “Tough-On-Crime” Politics Built The World’s Largest... (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2015 OP
Remember this, this is Hillary running, not Bill. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #1
She could win over a lot of liberals, then, by promising to undo her husband's legacy if she wins. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #3
Hillary needs to run on Hillary issues. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #4
If she's running on rebuilding the middle class... bunnies Apr 2015 #6
Precisely. bunnies Apr 2015 #5
Yeah, it's not like she had some job in between where she could jeff47 Apr 2015 #7
Ironic that the man who used to be called the 'first black President' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #2
Pragmatic, Third Way, DLC Capitalism.......Rebubs support it, also.. KoKo Apr 2015 #8
Not sure how much discussion that will get Babel_17 Apr 2015 #9
That's a very tall order to undo enormous damage by reinstalling Glass-Steagall, undoing NAFTA, appalachiablue Apr 2015 #10
Bullshit denbot Apr 2015 #11
I suppose he had no responsibility for NAFTA either Doctor_J Apr 2015 #13
Bill did sign it. denbot Apr 2015 #14
, blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #12
If you don't like dynasties vote for someone else Lipss Apr 2015 #15
What if we don't like corporate/government merger, then what should we do? Doctor_J Apr 2015 #16

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. She could win over a lot of liberals, then, by promising to undo her husband's legacy if she wins.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:44 PM
Apr 2015

End a lot of systemic injustices in the 'justice' system, reinstall Glass-Steagal in its entirety, end NAFTA and abandon TPP.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
6. If she's running on rebuilding the middle class...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 03:19 PM
Apr 2015

those ARE "Hillary Issues". At least they damn sure should be.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Ironic that the man who used to be called the 'first black President'
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:42 PM
Apr 2015

(before a real one came along) is the man largely responsible for the plague of minority incarceration the country suffers.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. Pragmatic, Third Way, DLC Capitalism.......Rebubs support it, also..
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 07:18 PM
Apr 2015

Mega Prisons make money for the States that Run Them. "JOBS"

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
9. Not sure how much discussion that will get
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 08:08 PM
Apr 2015

That era might get discussed if sentencing reforms are a topic. I suppose there's an opening for Republicans to try to work it in, but given their policies that punish the poor, I see them as consistently fumbling that.
I'd like to see HRC defuse this issue even without any hypothetical primary challenger bringing it up, however obliquely. The OP speaks for itself, imo; the issues at stake are fundamental to what makes us The Democratic Party.
HRC had her policy positions out pretty early, last time around, IIRC, and they were part of why I backed her. I hope she equals or surpasses that disclosure, this time.

appalachiablue

(41,180 posts)
10. That's a very tall order to undo enormous damage by reinstalling Glass-Steagall, undoing NAFTA,
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 09:42 PM
Apr 2015

stopping TPP and changing the massive privatized, corporate prison system Bill Clinton assisted. He also ended welfare, setting a lifetime limit to 5 years no matter what the economy is like, putting many women and children into poverty. The personal and societal damage from these actions and policies, and from others like union busting, outsourcing, H1-B visas and privatized schools is unimaginable.

The powerful in the global investor class, including people in all American political parties are accustomed to stock revenues from investments in these industries. Peter Theil, the German born, libertarian tech billionaire of Paypal and Facebook doesn't believe capitalism is compatible with democracy, and thinks the US started going downhill when women got the right to vote. Communities rely on prisons for employment and contracts; an article here focused on a Texas town where residents were protesting, wanting the prison returned to their community. Thurgood Marshall Jr. is on the board of the CCA, Corrections Corporation of America, when I read that it was troubling.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
11. Bullshit
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 11:35 PM
Apr 2015

It wasn't then President BILL Clinton driving harsher punishment. Conservatives were trying to one up each other by positioning themselfs to be tougher on crime, and had been since Reagan's administration.

Remember how the Willie Horton ads helped Bush the Elder into office?

But thanks for trying to damage the likely democratic nominee with a bullshit broad brush.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
13. I suppose he had no responsibility for NAFTA either
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:52 AM
Apr 2015
Hillary will be elected. there is no need to try to alter history to make it easier

denbot

(9,901 posts)
14. Bill did sign it.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:14 AM
Apr 2015

But it NAFTA was initiated and much of the ground work done by Bush the Elder's administration.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
16. What if we don't like corporate/government merger, then what should we do?
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:08 PM
Apr 2015

I am going to move that any comment from the PUMAS that is anything like, "Fine, then vote for Cruz" be removed. If you think that adds anything to the discussion, wake up

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