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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:34 PM Jun 2015

Buzz Aldrin: Why the U.S. Should Partner with China in Space

http://time.com/3916379/buzz-aldrin-china-space-partnership/

Buzz Aldrin: Why the U.S. Should Partner with China in Space

Buzz Aldrin @therealbuzz
June 11, 2015

Working together on the International Space Station would benefit us all

I’d like to call attention to and expand upon several points recently raised by Jeffrey Kluger, editor at large for TIME magazine, in his first-rate article: “The Silly Reason the Chinese Aren’t Allowed on the Space Station.” Let me add my voice of support for the U.S. to initiate dialogue with China on the country’s inclusion in the International Space Station program. Doing so, however, requires not only White House leadership, but also bi-partisan support in Congress to roll back public law that bans NASA from engaging in bilateral agreements and coordination with China.

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But suppose U.S. leadership in promoting space cooperation with China is a no-show. Other nations are already stepping into this arena.

Specifically, the European Space Agency and China have blueprinted a cooperative work plan for space. ESA and the China Manned Space Agency signed a framework agreement in December 2014, reaffirming that partnership last month. The two sides have established working groups on space experiments and utilization, astronaut selection, training and flight, and space infrastructure of mutual interest to both organizations.

Let’s consider some key facts.

China is readying their Tiangong-2 space lab to be lofted around 2016. Once that facility is in Earth orbit, it will be followed by a piloted Shenzhou-11 spacecraft and first use of the Tianzhou cargo craft to rendezvous with and support lab operations. A core segment for a larger, multi-module space station is also on their agenda, to be placed in Earth orbit around 2018. That station is expected to be fully constructed around 2022. China is itself taking strides to make their orbiting outpost available to other countries.

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Buzz Aldrin: Why the U.S. Should Partner with China in Space (Original Post) bananas Jun 2015 OP
I agree with Buzz... Cooley Hurd Jun 2015 #1
Nope. onehandle Jun 2015 #2
Well, humans going to Mars is likely beyond any one country. longship Jun 2015 #3
We can "fight" them or work with them... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #4
Why should thay partner with us? Sam1 Jun 2015 #5
 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
1. I agree with Buzz...
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 01:36 PM
Jun 2015

When it comes to space exploration, we should put political ideologies aside because we are all Persons. And such exploration benefits us all.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Well, humans going to Mars is likely beyond any one country.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 02:05 PM
Jun 2015

And, get this straight, we are going to do that.

My choice would be Moonbase Alpha, first. Then Mars.

1. The Moon is two to three days away (Mars, nine months on a good day). We can develop the tech for a Mars mission there much more easily. And if things go bad, rescue is relatively close.

2. The Moon has a much, much easier gravity well to land in. Mars is much, much worse. Yes, we would eventually have to develop the tech to land heavy shit on Mars, but that would have to be developed anyway to presupply any manned Mars mission landing anyway.

3. Going to Mars is a real bitch. If we tried it now, none of the astronauts would likely survive. It is going to take years to develop and test everything required to get the on Mars and return them safely. The cost would be huge.

China apparently wants to do things like this. Why not partner with them?

Buzz is correct.

My regards.

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