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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 05:52 PM Jun 2015

The Illegality of NATO

by John Scales Avery / June 10th, 2015

Violation of the UN Charter and the Nuremberg Principles:


Violation of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty:


Must Europe really be dragged into a potentially catastrophic war with Russia?

At present the United States government is trying to force the European members of NATO to participate in aggressive operations in connection with the coup which it carried out in Ukraine. Europe must refuse.

The hubris, and reckless irresponsibility of the US government in risking a catastrophic war with Russia is almost beyond belief, but the intervention in Ukraine is only one in a long series of US interventions:

During the period from 1945 to the present, the US interfered, militarily or covertly, in the internal affairs of a large number of nations: China, 1945-49; Italy, 1947-48; Greece, 1947-49; Philippines, 1946-53; South Korea, 1945-53; Albania, 1949-53; Germany, 1950s; Iran, 1953; Guatemala, 1953-1990s; Middle East, 1956-58; Indonesia, 1957-58; British Guiana/Guyana, 1953-64; Vietnam, 1950-73; Cambodia, 1955-73; The Congo/Zaire, 1960-65; Brazil, 1961-64; Dominican Republic, 1963-66; Cuba, 1959-present; Indonesia, 1965; Chile, 1964-73; Greece, 1964-74; East Timor, 1975-present; Nicaragua, 1978-89; Grenada, 1979-84; Libya, 1981-89; Panama, 1989; Iraq, 1990-present; Afghanistan 1979-92; El Salvador, 1980-92; Haiti, 1987-94; Yugoslavia, 1999; and Afghanistan, 2001-present, Syria, 2013-present. Egypt, 2013-present.

Most of these interventions were explained to the American people as being necessary to combat communism (or more recently, terrorism), but an underlying motive was undoubtedly the desire of the ruling oligarchy to put in place governments and laws that would be favorable to the economic interests of the US and its allies. Also, the military-industrial complex needs justification for the incredibly bloated military budgets that drain desperately needed resources from social and environmental projects.


Full article: http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/06/the-illegality-of-nato/
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The Illegality of NATO (Original Post) polly7 Jun 2015 OP
The military budget of America is not just bloated, it is obscene, and crime against humanity. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #1
Nice try, but not playing... Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #2
Great! Don't think you'd be much of a 'player' anyway when it comes to human polly7 Jun 2015 #3
Just not playing the game of entertaining Kremlin talking points Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #5
Curious, GGJohn Jun 2015 #9
Tremendous, and TRUE article. Thank you, very much. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2015 #4
fuck putin..... stonecutter357 Jun 2015 #6
Fuck war. polly7 Jun 2015 #7
Pure bullshit. Nitram Jun 2015 #8
Hmmm, very interesting how you leave out the part of Putin invading and annexing the Crimea. GGJohn Jun 2015 #10
... NuclearDem Jun 2015 #11
In other words swilton Jun 2015 #12

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. The military budget of America is not just bloated, it is obscene, and crime against humanity.
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 06:40 PM
Jun 2015

How is it that it is the alleged theft of piddling sums of public money by the poor is savagely covered by the media as if on a witch hunt, but $400,000,000,000 being squandered on a single plane project for a plane yet to be in service bares nary a mention, except to be considered as money nevertheless well wasted?

American militarism and imperialism are clearly the greatest threats to world peace, and by American I mean the privatized Republican Party.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
3. Great! Don't think you'd be much of a 'player' anyway when it comes to human
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:41 PM
Jun 2015

lives and the horror NATO has already committed and has the power to further inflict.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
5. Just not playing the game of entertaining Kremlin talking points
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:48 PM
Jun 2015

for the millionth time...So I'll leave you here to play with yourself.

Thank you and good night

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
9. Curious,
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 01:03 AM
Jun 2015

do you get your talking points straight from the Kremlin?
You sound just like the old Soviet propaganda paper, Pravda.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
7. Fuck war.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:45 AM
Jun 2015

Especially needless wars that benefit only those 1% at the top and enrich the blood-sucking MIC, the IMF and World Bank and brutal austerity shoved down the throats of all those 'needing Nato's 'intervention' - think Libya and the lies it took for that major fuck-up' from which tens of thousands are risking their lives to escape.

FUCK WAR and the warmongers who push for it with brutal coups, made up bogey-men, incubator babies, blah, blah ... whatever newest and best terror!!! campaign can be dreamt up.

Fuck Nuland, McCain and every warmonger who instigated the horror in Ukraine.

Fuck your lying wars that kill, mutilate and maim using the world's deadliest and ugliest weaponry and keep on killing with it for decades.

Fuck all of those who've never had to face it from another nation as those in every continent but North America have, yet want to see it go on and on and fucking on .... we're insulated here by oceans, we've never had to see the horrors of it on our own home turf, and yet we think it's OUR business to spread it across the world - for profit, empire and resources.

Fuck war,the liars who lie to create it, and everyone who defends it!

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
8. Pure bullshit.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 09:55 PM
Jun 2015

Putin invaded and took Crimea. War and War Mongers!

Putin is trying to destabilize Ulraine (and going a very good job of it). Putin is a War Monger. Russia is guilty.

How much do they pay you trolls to bullshit liberal web sites? Shame on you and your fellow running dog travelers.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
10. Hmmm, very interesting how you leave out the part of Putin invading and annexing the Crimea.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 01:05 AM
Jun 2015

I'll hand it to ya, you parrot the Kremlin talking points perfectly.

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
12. In other words
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 07:03 PM
Jun 2015

Just three years ago, Veterans for Peace called for the abolishment of NATO.




Veterans for Peace works for the abolition of war, and while that process will take many steps, one that should be taken immediately is the dissolution of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

NATO has always been a war-making institution lacking in accountability to the peoples of the nations it claims to represent. But NATO at least once claimed a defensive purpose that it neither claims nor represents any longer.

NATO has militarized the nations of Europe against the will of their people, now maintains hundreds of nuclear weapons in non-nuclear European nations in blatant violation of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and is threatening Russia with missile base construction on its borders.

Having fought aggressive wars in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, NATO remains in Afghanistan, illegally, immorally, and to no coherent purpose. The people of the United States, other NATO nations, and Afghanistan itself, overwhelmingly favor an end to NATO's presence, while Presidents Obama and Karzai, against the will of their people, work to commit U.S. forces to at least 12.5 more years in Afghanistan.

NATO provides the United States with a pretense of global coalition and legality. Approximately half of the world's military spending is U.S., while adding the other NATO nations brings the total to three-quarters. The head of the Pentagon, Leon Panetta, recently testified in Congress that a war could be made legal by working through either the United Nations or NATO. While no written law supports that claim, it is a claim that has served its intended purpose. NATO also serves as a false legal shield, protecting the U.S. military from Congressional oversight.

The U.S. dominated NATO holds up the past year's war on Libya as a model for the future, with an eye on various potential victims, including Syria and Iran. In so doing, NATO serves as the armed enforcer of the exploitative agenda of the G-8, which has fled Chicago for the guarded compound at Camp David.

NATO's interests are neither democratically determined nor humanitarian in purpose. NATO does not bomb all nations guilty of humanitarian abuses. Nor does NATO's bombing alleviate human suffering, it adds to it. Saudi Arabia is not a target. Bahrain is not a target. Ben Ali and Mubarak were not targets. An analysis of NATO's real motivations reveals a desire to control the global flow of oil, to support dictators who have supported U.S./NATO wars, prisons and torture operations, to back Israel's expansionist agenda, and to surround and threaten the nation of Iran.

The killing and destruction engaged in by NATO in Libya was illegal, immoral, and counter-productive as is its aggression in Afghanistan. NATO’s wars have not brought democracy, peace, or human rights anywhere.

Libya is not a model for future NATO action. There is no model for future NATO action. NATO has lost its reason to exist if it ever had one. Veterans For Peace joins with our brothers and sisters in Europe, who are also rallying nonviolently against NATO, in calling for its elimination.

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