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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:31 PM Jul 2015

Debate Rages in SYRIZA Over Austerity Plan

During the early hours of Saturday morning, the Greek Parliament passed the motion by a majority vote of 250 - 300, but Dimitri Lascaris says this is one of the worst political debacles in modern European history

- July 11, 2015

Bio

Dimitri Lascaris is a partner with the Canadian law firm of Siskinds, where he heads the firm's securities class actions practice. Before joining Siskinds, he practiced securities law in the New York and Paris offices of a major Wall Street law firm. Last year, he was named by Canadian Business magazine as one of the 50 most influential business people in Canada, and was described by the magazine as "the fiercest advocate for shareholder rights" in Canada. He is currently prosecuting numerous securities class actions in Canada, including the Sino-Forest class action, in which his clients just negotiated the largest auditor settlement in Canadian history: a $117 million settlement with the accounting firm Ernst & Young.

Transcript

Debate Rages in SYRIZA Over Austerity PlanSHARMINI PERIES, EXEC. PRODUCER, TRNN: This is the Dimitri Lascaris report on the Real News Network. I'm Sharmini Peries coming to you from Baltimore.

The Greek MPs are debating the controversial reform plan tabled by Greek prime minister Alexis Tsipras to its European creditors on Thursday. He's trying to avert a forced exit out of the Eurozone despite the clear mandate given to him on Sunday to say no to its creditors. In the meantime the left platform of Syriza, which includes Costas Lapavitsas that we have interviewed here on the Real News Network, issued a statement demanding that Greece exit from the Euro and deal with the economic crisis by developing its own economy in the interest of its own citizens.

With me to discuss all of this and more is Dimitri Lascaris. He's joining me from London, Ontario. He's a lawyer with the Canadian law firm Siskinds, where he heads the firm's securities class actions practice. He's also a board member of the Real News Network.

Dimitri, thank you so much for joining us today.

DIMITRI LASCARIS, SECURITIES CLASS ACTIONS LAWYER IN CANADA: Always a pleasure.

PERIES: So Dimitri, give us the latest development in the last 24 hours.

LASCARIS: Well, I think we are witnessing what could fairly be described as one of the worst political debacles in modern European history. The government surprised and annoyed, infuriated, its negotiating partners at the Troika by announcing at the 11th hour of the negotiations a referendum. It vigorously urged the populace to vote against the ultimatum of the Troika, despite immense pressure being placed upon the Greek electorate through the capping of liquidity assistance to the Greek banks, which resulted in the imposition of fairly severe capital controls, very extensive damage to the economy as a result of the freezing up of the flow of money in the economy. And the threats that a no vote would be equivalent to a Grexit, and there was a--it's debatable how many people in Greece want to avoid a Grexit, but certainly a substantial portion of the population does not want to go down that path.

Despite all of that pressure, the Greek electorate showed immense courage and voted oxhi, no, with a quite substantial majority, 61 percent, as we all know. In excess of 61 percent, actually. And within approximately 48 hours, the Greek government proceeded to offer terms, austerity terms, that were at least as harsh--I mean, essentially as harsh, and perhaps even harsher than those it urged the Greek people to reject only days earlier, successfully urged them to reject. And in addition, its proposals sent to the Troika yesterday make no mention at all of debt relief. Simply nothing in them in relation to debt relief. Even though, you know, the IMF and the treasury secretary of the United States have been saying in the last 48 hours and started to say previously, and Donald Tusk, senior official of the EU, others have said debt relief should be accorded to Greece. The acceptance--this term is not actually conditional. Certainly not on its face.

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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. I've never seen anything quite like it. Here is a little more on the goings on from yesterday..if
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jul 2015

you're interested. Greece should never had a gun placed to their head by the elite..it's
disgusting and now we see the people are being compromised again. The interesting thing
is the large percent that said, no.

DIMITRI LASCARIS, SECURITIES CLASS ACTIONS LAWYER IN CANADA: Thanks, Sharmini.

PERIES: So Dimitri, another deadline has been set for Sunday. Explain what that is, and why Greece is in this situation once again.

LASCARIS: Well, the deadline has been effectively set by the European Central Bank. As of, I think it's midnight on Sunday, if there isn't a deal, at least one in principle with the other members of the Eurozone, Greece's creditors outside of the Eurozone--principally the IMF then, the ECB says it will withdraw liquidity assistance for the Greek banking system which will certainly precipitate a collapse of the banking system. Right now the banks are closed but they're dispensing money, sporadically, at least, up to a maximum of 60 Euros for each of their domestic clients. But if the banking system collapses, there isn't going to be any dispensation of money.

So this is quite serious, and will take the crisis to an entirely new level.

PERIES: Dimitri, there's a lot of focus on the Syriza leadership and the European Union and the Troika, and the negotiations. Very little attention is being paid to, at least in the international media, what's really going on inside the government and what's happening in Greece in parliament. Explain what you know so far.

LASCARIS: Well when you and I last spoke, the major development within the government--this was very shortly after the resounding oxhi vote was delivered by the Greek people, was the resignation of the finance minister Yanis Varoufakis. And you and I talked about the possible reasons for that. I indicated I had my own theories, but all of them were kind of tentative.

A new theory has emerged from somebody who's I think got insights into what is happening within the Syriza leadership that many of us don't. It's Paul Mason of Channel 4 news. And he expressed the view--and he, by the way, interviewed Yanis Varoufakis several times in the last few weeks. He expressed he view that the reason why the ex-finance minister resigned was because he realized or felt that the leadership of the party was about to enter into a compromise with the Eurozone which was not one that he could support in good conscience, and so he left the government.

This is a credible theory I have to say, because at the same time he, that Minister, ex-Minister of Finance Varoufakis resigned, Tsipras, Alexis Tsipras the prime minister convened a meeting of other party leaders including the neoliberal party New Democracy. Another neoliberal party To Potami, which characterizes itself as a centrist or central-left party. It isn't. And the so-called socialist party, which is clearly a neoliberal party at this stage, PASOK. And a statement emerged from that, a statement of national unity, although I don't think this can fairly be described at this stage as a national unity government.

And what I thought was most striking about this statement was its very tepid determination to achieve some level of debt restructuring. Rather than say collectively, these party leaders, we are not going to do a deal that does not include a binding commitment to dramatic debt reduction, which is exactly what Greece requires and everybody knows it, what they said was they wanted, it was really a plea, not a demand. A plea for Greece's creditors to enter into discussions at some stage in the future about some form of debt restructuring.

This was essentially on the table before, the possibility at some point in the future of having a discussion about debt relief. It was always there. So if the intention of the government is to achieve is to achieve nothing more than an austerity, an extension of the austerity regime coupled with some sort of non-binding commitment to have a chat about debt relief at some stage, that I, I have to say would amount to a very clear betrayal of the will of the Greek people.

When this initially happened, when Tsipras convened a meeting of other party leaders, the mainstream press interpreted this as an attempt on his part to shield himself from regime change. The thought seemed to be that if he had the leaders of those parties that I mentioned standing side-by-side with him that there would be no effective means by which he could be deposed by the creditors. I think now in retrospect the more likely or plausible explanation is that by entering into a loose, [indeed] a fragile alliance with these parties, what Tsipras is aiming to do and what he may accomplish at the end of the day is to isolate the left wing of Syriza, which will have nothing to do with further austerity and will be insistent upon meaningful debt relief. Because if he can rely upon the support of those parties to, in respect of any deal that he happens to strike with the Troika between now and the weekend, then he doesn't need the support of his leftist wing.

Regrettably that seems to be where we're heading. The big wildcard, I have to say, is going to be how Greeks will respond to this. They were threatened with all manner of devastation and destruction in the leadup to the referendum, and to their credit--I mean, this is really a victory of the Greek people. It's not a victory of Alexis Tsipras, it's not the victory of any political party in Greece. It's the victory of the Greek people. They stood up to those threats. They resoundingly said now. And if they do what Angela Merkel is now demanding, which is that they accept terms that are even harsher, austerity terms that are even harsher than those that were rejected by the Greek electorate, I think there's a big question about how much patience the Greek people are going to show for that.

PERIES: So what's really at stake here, what is Syriza trying to prevent here? Being forced out of the Eurozone, obviously, but what does this mean in terms of their leadership credibility and ability to govern there?

LASCARIS: Well, I think after having called that referendum--I mean, there was, there was a report by Ambrose Evans Pritchard of the Telegraph in the UK that Tsipras was depressed on the day after the referendum because he had expected to lose, and in fact wanted to lose. And this had placed him in a bind. He wanted to have a democratic mandate to enter into an agreement for further austerity, and arguably even harsher austerity than anything Greece has had to endure thus far.

So I think his credibility at this stage is really hanging by a thread. And I'm hopeful that he will summon the courage to stand up to the Troika, but that will mean at this stage, it appears, an exit from the Eurozone. The reports are that 15 out of 18 governments support, in the European Union, currently support in some form Greece's exit from the Eurozone. They seem prepared, at least some of them, to have a discussion about doing that in an orderly manner. In a minimally humane manner. But there is very little appetite amongst the EU governments for Greece's continued participation in the Euro.

And as I've said many times, this is an extraordinarily complicated and challenging task, to transition to another currency. It's something that he has to be preparing for, the entire leadership of Syriza has to be mobilized for this eventuality. Rather than do that, Alexis Tsipras today went to Strasbourg and the European parliament, and engaged in a fairly unseemly bout of mudslinging with some of the neoliberal leaders within Parliament, including Manfred Weber, a German politician who leads the neoliberal European People's party. And he was essentially admonishing Tsipras to disavow critical statements that ex-finance minister Varoufakis had made about Eurozone leaders, in particular his claim that they were terrorists. Gus, Guy Verhofstadt, another neoliberal party within Europe condemned Tsipras' approach to the crisis and said, you know, it's time for him to prove himself to be a true reformer. And of course in the language of European neoliberalism, reform means vicious austerity.

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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. "which was not one that he could support in good conscience," - he sent a letter yesterday
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 05:44 PM
Jul 2015

saying he would vote 'yes' on the proposal if he were in attendance.

These guys are at the mercy of their creditors. To paraphrase a quote:
"We have altered the deal. Pray we do not alter it any further".


Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
4. Yes, but he has a population that wanted something else and it appears he wasn't
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 06:06 PM
Jul 2015

prepared for that, no.

One noted economist's opinion:

snip* Stiglitz claims that should Greece lose the euro it "may not be easy" but it would not be "the end of the world" for Greece, citing the example of Argentina's decision to unpeg their peso from the US dollar's hard currency instead of introducing more cuts to pay off debt.

"The euro is just a 16-year-old experiment, poorly designed and engineered not to work - in a crisis money flows from the weak country's banks to the strong, leading to divergence."

Stiglitz joins a growing line of economists who have accused Germany and the EU of imposing impossible austerity demands on Greece which were doomed to fail, as French economist Thomas Piketty and four of his colleagues addressed an open letter to chancellor Angela Merkel saying more austerity would "kill off Greece's future" and that of "the eurozone as a beacon of hope, democracy and prosperity".

http://europe.newsweek.com/joseph-stiglitz-calls-us-intervene-over-greece-330069

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
5. I really hope through some miracle Greece has pre-printed drachma notes.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 10:02 PM
Jul 2015

If they have, convert all accounts to the ERM2 value of drachma and load up the ATM's. Yes there will be a currency devaluation, probably at least to 1000 Drachma to the USD but people will still have access to money.

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