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struggle4progress

(118,295 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:11 PM Feb 2016

What did LaVoy Finicum die for?

Aaron Bady

... To “patriots” like Finicum and the Bundys, the movement to reclaim public lands from the federal government is a variation on America's cowboys and Indians story, but in their version they're the cowboys and the Indians. On the one hand, they position themselves as the descendants of men and women who first won the West, the settlers who originally built this country. On the other, they see themselves as the victims of a huge land grab, locals who have been forcefully dispossessed. That makes them both an oppressed minority and the conquering heroes of manifest destiny.

To understand this precarious and contradictory position — which sits at the radical edge of a larger, well-funded land-transfer, anti-environmental movement that seeks to privatize public property —- we have to go back to this nation's original sin. When the United States took the West from its first inhabitants — by treaty, deception and force of arms — the government put forward .. much the same doctrine that Finicum preached around the West to ranchers groups; he called it “productive beneficial use.” Put simply: the land belongs to those who use it productively, those whose ranching, farming and stewardship benefit the land ...

In 1812, the General Land Office began overseeing the disposal of the lands the United States government was busily acquiring in the West. The Preemption Act of 1841 and the Homestead Act of 1862 supplied guidelines for the disposal; the former gave land to those who were already farming it and the latter to those who applied to settle it. But the underlying principle was the same: having taken the lands from the native peoples, the federal government was to be only a temporary steward of the land until it was given to a “productive beneficial” user ...

The commission's 1970 report — “One Third of the Nation's Land” — argued that “most public lands would not serve the maximum public interest in private ownership” and urged the “reversal of the policy that the United States should dispose of ... public domain lands.” In 1976, Congress passed the Federal Land Policy and Management Act, repealing most of the old disposal laws and dictating that public lands would be “retained in Federal ownership in perpetuity,” except for special cases. Though the Bureau of Land Management leases the land for development and a variety of commercial uses, their official mandate is to keep the land open and accessible to all users, preserving it for the future ...


http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-bady-malheur-ideology-20160207-story.html

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What did LaVoy Finicum die for? (Original Post) struggle4progress Feb 2016 OP
The Koch brothers KT2000 Feb 2016 #1
And in that lies the real truth. Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #2
The American Lands Council is arguably more dangerous. They might succeed. phantom power Feb 2016 #6
He was too stupid to live. nt valerief Feb 2016 #3
Threatening to kill cops rjsquirrel Feb 2016 #4
This was tarpman. earthshine Feb 2016 #5
His own planet. Downwinder Feb 2016 #7
He died for snacks and dildos SwankyXomb Feb 2016 #8
He died because the LDS church not that long ago believed that GOD was more important Ford_Prefect Feb 2016 #9

KT2000

(20,583 posts)
1. The Koch brothers
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

fund American Lands Council that tries to get local governments get control of federal land.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. And in that lies the real truth.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

Amazing how ignorant of fact our Nation is. All one needs is to read the Salt Lake City Tribune,one can see these groups at work in real time.

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
5. This was tarpman.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016

Perhaps he took a long look at his desperate, go-nowhere life, and decided the best thing he could do was martyr himself for his cause.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
9. He died because the LDS church not that long ago believed that GOD was more important
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 03:09 AM
Feb 2016

than elected government in Washington. The article below lays out the history that leads to Finicum's version of reality which has been materially supported by Koch and other right wing Dark money interested in exploiting public lands.

"What Is the Link Between the Oregon 'Militiamen' and Mormonism?"

http://www.alternet.org/belief/what-link-between-oregon-militiamen-and-mormonism

He emerges from the suddenly stationary vehicle with his hands outstretched, and appears to talk to the two state police officers trying to apprehend him with their guns drawn. Then he reaches for his pocket, where he has a loaded pistol, according to law enforcement. He is immediately shot by one of the officers, and falls to the ground.

We see a 55-year-old family man, who has had ample time to think, make a conscious choice to throw his life away.


The reasons and history are a dark period of the not so distant Mormon past, during which blended Mormon mythology along with paranoid anti-communism at the hands of W. Cleon Skousen lead to a vile mix of culture and belief.

Skousen’s editions of the constitution, the pamphlets seen in the pockets of the refuge occupiers, pair the text of the constitution - which many Mormons believe to be divinely inspired - with highly selective quotes from the founding fathers, with the intention of persuading readers that the republic was a Christian enterprise from the outset, and was part of a divine promise.

Skousen - who died in 2006 at the age of 92 - was a popular, prolific writer who had stints in the FBI and as Salt Lake City police chief. He was also one of the most prominent and influential ultraconservative political activists in mid-century America, inspiring the John Birch Society’s febrile brand of anticommunist conspiracy thinking.


It could very well be that the Kochs had more to do with this event than coincident purpose. They have funded right wing Militia groups through 3rd party organizations and spent millions on proposed transfer of Federally owned land to local government and private hands.
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