Clinton Email Scandal: Hillary’s Documents Flowed Openly Across Web
Corruption: Its been known for some time that Hillary Clintons personal email contained top-secret government material. Were also learning just how vulnerable her system was. She might as well have posted documents on an open blog.
While secretary of state, Clinton conducted State Department business through a personal email account handled by a private server that did not meet the governments security standards. The homebrew system was probably the most susceptible to hackers during its first two months of existence when emails passed through it without encryption.
The domain name clintonemail.com was registered on Jan. 13, 2009, eight days before Clinton became secretary of state, Computer World reported last month, but it wasnt until March 29 that the first (security) certificate was issued for the domain. The certificate is necessary to encrypt connections from cell phones and computers accessing the server and email account, said the report.
Without that security, data would be flowing across the Internet in plain text, the trade magazine reported.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clinton-email-scandal-hillarys-documents-flowed-openly-across-web/
2naSalit
(86,646 posts)perfectly fine that W and most of the admin, including Rove, Cheney, Powell and others to have used private email to plan the pillaging of the planet from the white house and pentagon and delete all that after the fact... amIright?
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)thesquanderer
(11,989 posts)Nobody here is defending those guys. And suggesting it's okay for Hillary because the spawns of Satan did it too (or something similar) is not exactly a stellar defense.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)"Can you imagine?!!"
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Hillary used the classified system for classified email, and her server for non-classified material. And her server has been investigated and no evidence was found for its being hacked. It probably wasn't targeted because it didn't have the .gov address..
unc70
(6,115 posts)She used her server for all her email. And used her Blackberry as she traveled all around the world. For the first two months, her server did not even have an authentication site certificate. All her email was out in the open over unsecured networks. This wasn't lax security; this was no security. This would be criminally negligent on sites that process credit cards, social security numbers, and such.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)instead of spreading lies.
unc70
(6,115 posts)Not according to the State Department. Here is a very long summary article that explores a lot the issues on this topic. I suggest you read it before impugning me.
I do not have the facts wrong. I am not spreading lies.
"As it happened, Clinton would never have a government BlackBerry, personal computer or email account."
...
"Powell conducted virtually all of his classified communications on paper or over a State Department computer installed on his desk that was reserved for classified information, according to interviews. Clinton never had such a desktop or a classified email account, according to the State Department."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/how-clintons-email-scandal-took-root/2016/03/27/ee301168-e162-11e5-846c-10191d1fc4ec_story.html
Any question now? Please proceed.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)No one used .gov for classified documents.
Classified cables are sent through a separate, secure system called SCIF, and she had such a system set up at work and at home (where it was guarded by the same Secret Service agents that were already guarding the President and Mrs. Clinton's home.)
The confusion in the article you sent is the use of the word "email." Hillary didn't have a state department computer for email but she DID use the secure SCIF system that was specifically meant for classified documents. She also sent and received documents through couriers, when she was traveling.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsatell/2016/02/07/the-technology-behind-hillary-clintons-email-scandal-explained/#5415960778c9
How The Government Keeps Information Safe
There is probably no bigger target for hackers than the US government. Foreign agents want to uncover information about our policies, plans and capabilities, while businesses often want to know about decisions that will be made in advance. In this day and age, it is impossible to guarantee that our computer systems will not be infiltrated.
In fact, government operates under the presumption that email messages will be intercepted, and uses two methods to keep sensitive information secret. The first, for the most highly secret material, involves hard copies of classified documents. These are not allowed to be copied or sent electronically and can only be transferred by a government courier.
The second method involves something called a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF), a facility which is used for electronically encrypted information. This is done by using large random numbers to scramble messages so that, even if they are intercepted, they cant be read by anyone who doesnt have the key. Truly secret information is never sent by regular email.
So, for the purposes of security, it really doesnt matter whether Hillary Clinton was using a government issued email or her own personal server. To a large extent unencrypted email is unencrypted email, no matter where the server resides. And while it is true that Clinton used her own private server for unclassified business, she also regularly used a SCIF for secure communication (one was installed at her residence).
As long as she did not move information from an encrypted server or hard copy document, our secrets are probably safe.
How Did Classified Information Get Into Clintons Email?
Nobody is accusing Clinton of transferring documents from a hard copy or a SCIF and sending them by email. Furthermore, as Secretary of State, she was largely responsible for determining what information was classified and what was not. So how did classified information get into her email, as well as the accounts of her predecessors, Powell and Rice?
SNIP
MORE ON SCIF HERE:
http://www.newsweek.com/colin-powell-emails-hillary-clinton-424187
Start with this: Powell and Rice, like all modern secretaries of state, each had at least two email accountsone personal and the other for communications designated as highly classified at the time of their creation . For classified information, both of themand their aides with appropriate clearancehad a sensitive compartmented information facility, or what is known in intelligence circles as a SCIF. Most senior officials who deal with classified information have a SCIF in their offices and their homes.
These are not just extra offices with a special lock. Each SCIF is constructed following complex rules imposed by the intelligence and defense communities. Restrictions imposed on the builders are designed to ensure that no unauthorized personnel can get into the room, and the SCIF cannot be accessed by hacking or electronic eavesdropping. A group called the technical surveillance countermeasures team (TSCM) investigates the area or activity to check that all communications are protected from outside surveillance and cannot be intercepted.
Most permanent SCIFs have physical and technical security, called TEMPEST. The facility is guarded and in operation 24 hours a day, seven days a week; any official on the SCIF staff must have the highest security clearance. There is supposed to be sufficient personnel continuously present to observe the primary, secondary and emergency exit doors of the SCIF. Each SCIF must apply fundamental red-black separation to prevent the inadvertent transmission of classified data over telephone lines, power lines or signal lines.
I could keep going for thousands and thousands of words explaining the security measures used for SCIFs. And all of this all of thisis designed to protect the confidentiality of emails and communications determined to be classified at the time of transmission.
In addition to the classified email system used in SCIFs, there are personal email accounts. Prior to 2013, these could be accounts inside the relatively unsecure State Department system or private email accounts. If they are privaterunning through a commercial or personal serverthey have to follow some rules set up in the Federal Register . There are no guards, no red-black procedures, no construction rules, no special rooms, no TEMPEST, no TSCM. And most important: Until 2013, there was no rule against using them. In fact, the rules specifically allowed for them. Check out the relevant section in the Code of Federal Regulations (36 CFR Chapter XII, Subchapter B, section 1236.22b) for the rules regarding the use of personal email accounts by any State Department official.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/sep/10/hillary-clintons-emails-classified-or-not/
Clinton has said she viewed classified information in hard copy in her office. If she was traveling, she used other secure channels.
Some of the emails released this month actually show Clintons team talking about how they cant email each other classified information.
Senior adviser Alec Ross noted in a February 2010 email that he was keeping his comments "within the boundaries of unclassified email
regarding the country we discussed."
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
How did Clinton receive and consume classified information?
The Secretary's office was located in a secure area. Classified information was viewed in hard copy by Clinton while in the office. While on travel, the State Department had rigorous protocols for her and traveling staff to receive and transmit information of all types.
A separate, closed email system was used by the State Department for the purpose of handling classified communications, which was designed to prevent such information from being transmitted anywhere other than within that system.
unc70
(6,115 posts)Unlike Powell, she did not use SCIF from a secure PC. She did not use PCs herself in any context, only her Blackberry and her iPad. She used either paper copies or her one email account through her private server. Until her private email server was discovered, the State Department responding to FOIA requests could find no electronic communications at all from Clinton. None! That was when it all hit the fan.
FYI I know a fair bit about security and secure communications.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Here is just one excerpt, AGAIN, but the articles contain much more:
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)2naSalit
(86,646 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)You know, when the Hillary-led State Department put pressure on the Haitian government on behalf of donors to the Clinton Foundation, to keep slave wages (minus what the employers steal) for the workers producing clothes for Hanes and Dockers.
It's the kind of thing you might want to keep from FOIA; great for your own private server.
When Bill Clinton went to former Colombian president (and current Rupert Murdoch News Corporation board member) Alvaro Uribe to join in on the fun in Haiti, do you think Hillary communicated with Uribe on her private server, and would that communication be labeled "business" or "personal?"
Benghazi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Derp.
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Nitram
(22,811 posts)...this case is just plain dumb. Get a dictionary.