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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 04:59 AM Apr 2016

Very interesting update today in regards to the FBI Clinton Server Investigation.

Very interesting update today in regards to the FBI Clinton Server Investigation.
By OmahaDemocrat
Wednesday Apr 20, 2016 · 7:19 PM EDT

Lawyers for a reporter demanding access to email messages and files the FBI has reportedly retrieved from Hillary Clinton's private server are objecting to a secret filing the Justice Department submitted to a federal court last month as part of a bid to keep those messages under wraps.

-snip-

That is unique - it means the reasoning for denying the request is detrimental, not just the content.

The FOIA request was in regards to the ‘personal’ emails that Clinton deleted but were eventually recovered by the FBI. Clinton described those emails as wedding plans, yoga routines, and emails to Bill Clinton.

The DOJ now has until April 26th to explain why they couldn’t reveal the reasoning behind denying the FOIA request and why they did this in secret. If her ‘personal’ emails that she deleted contained classified content that would put her in a very precarious position. The Clinton’s have had to maintain that no classified material was located in her personal emails as legally they were all supposed to be the property of the State Department — and it is a crime to destroy classified material.

more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/20/1518134/-Very-interesting-update-today-in-regards-to-the-FBI-Clinton-Server-Investigation

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Very interesting update today in regards to the FBI Clinton Server Investigation. (Original Post) silvershadow Apr 2016 OP
Full of speculation and only interesting to the RW and some Sander's fans. riversedge Apr 2016 #1
I just found where she has been called on to step out since at least Feb. 12. silvershadow Apr 2016 #2
If you think this is going away, you are beyond denial. HRC fans should pay attention to the civil leveymg Apr 2016 #27
The only people in the Democratic party who aren't paying close attention to this--are fools CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #28
Even if you don't think it'll go anywhere, you might want to keep a note of interest Scootaloo Apr 2016 #35
It never ends. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #3
It does never end. We are at a crossroads in our party. It is here. It is upon us. And it is silvershadow Apr 2016 #4
The Democratic Party is just fine. leftofcool Apr 2016 #5
Source? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #7
Dont need a source; its Hillary. You know the rules; 7962 Apr 2016 #17
Got it. The message comes through loud and clear. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #18
That's exactly how she behaves... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #31
that is one thing being made clear in this election questionseverything Apr 2016 #38
Imagine if electoral votes were allotted the way delegates are in the primary.... 7962 Apr 2016 #39
I realize that you, as a Hillary supporter, would rather be cute CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #29
Yeah bud, you keep thinking everything is fine. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #36
Oh yeah. Everything is just ducky. frylock Apr 2016 #42
Ahh, but if the shoe were on the other foot... Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #14
It's was in 2008. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #16
It's was? What does that even mean? Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #22
One of your own? frylock Apr 2016 #41
personal e-mails involving others have privacy requirements. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #6
We know several of the deleted emails were NOT personal, as Sid Blumenthal turned them over toFBI peacebird Apr 2016 #8
I cannot believe she is destroying this primary for her own selfish ego. Voters be damned. silvershadow Apr 2016 #9
She isn't destroying the primary, she's destroying the party. A Simple Game Apr 2016 #20
That too. Must be the Third Way end game. Looks like she already got paid her silvershadow Apr 2016 #21
Not suprised that her fan club dismisses these transgressions, after all, they've dismissed ... Scuba Apr 2016 #10
That VRWC has innoculated the Clintons from their stupid 2cannan Apr 2016 #45
Someone really wants to know what the FBI has. Kokonoe Apr 2016 #11
More on this topic... thesquanderer Apr 2016 #12
I'm sure that they have all of the emails. Unless she melted down the server, there are Blue Meany Apr 2016 #40
Ohhhh NO,,, EMAILS,,,,, Oh the horror of it all!,,Drink! Cryptoad Apr 2016 #13
This again? BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #15
This is not a "RW GOP-generated "scandal"" CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #33
People have lost their jobs. their freedom over less. Why should she get a free pass? nt Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #34
It's been "fizzling" for the last year now. frylock Apr 2016 #43
As long as she didn't trade Top Secret info for Sex..... Mustellus Apr 2016 #19
That's right, just keep up the drumbeat of speculation and slander. Nitram Apr 2016 #23
The drumbeat is for a fatally flawed candidate. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #24
Wrong. The drummer is fatally flawed and the candidate has survived many such attempts. Nitram Apr 2016 #25
Thats the goal. No more Clintons and no more Bushes and I can breathe again. I owe nothing to silvershadow Apr 2016 #26
I guess if some people don't have a ral enemy they have to invent one. Nitram Apr 2016 #37
The issue is not personal emails CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #30
If they were sent/received on government equipment, yes. -none Apr 2016 #32
Exactly. Anyone who has worked for the (state or fed) government knows that 2cannan Apr 2016 #44
I wondered about that also. -none Apr 2016 #46
 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
2. I just found where she has been called on to step out since at least Feb. 12.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:41 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/hillary-clinton-michael-flynn-email-fbi-investigation/

I'm looking to see if even earlier. I know Bernie's been the true front-runner for Since the first of the year.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
27. If you think this is going away, you are beyond denial. HRC fans should pay attention to the civil
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:13 AM
Apr 2016

suits along with the FBI, DOJ and federal agency investigations of her, unless of course you like really rude surprises.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
28. The only people in the Democratic party who aren't paying close attention to this--are fools
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary could be indicted. It's not looking too good for her.

This FBI investigation into Clinton's email server could upend this primary and it could have paradigm-shifting repercussions for the Democratic party.

Who gives a rat's ass what the Republicans do or say.

Any Democrat who ignores this very serious issue is nothing but an ostrich with their head in the sand.

What Hillary Clinton did, by having an unsecured, private email server--on which she conducted all of her State business--is unprecedented. No government official has done what she has.

This is very serious.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
35. Even if you don't think it'll go anywhere, you might want to keep a note of interest
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:15 AM
Apr 2016

Just in case. Keep abreast of what's going on.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
3. It never ends.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:46 AM
Apr 2016

Say's a lot about your character when you're gleefully hoping for the fall of one of your own so that it will benefit your political agenda.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
4. It does never end. We are at a crossroads in our party. It is here. It is upon us. And it is
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 05:49 AM
Apr 2016

very, very real. This is The Great Continental Divide in our party right now. My character is better than hers I will tell you that much.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
17. Dont need a source; its Hillary. You know the rules;
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:50 AM
Apr 2016

they dont apply to her the same as everyone else

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
31. That's exactly how she behaves...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:57 AM
Apr 2016

Like the rules don't apply to her, whether it's classified material handling or anything else.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
39. Imagine if electoral votes were allotted the way delegates are in the primary....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

I wonder how that would work out.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
29. I realize that you, as a Hillary supporter, would rather be cute
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:28 AM
Apr 2016

and condescending. Indictment fairy, indeed.

There's an FBI investigation that centers around Hillary Clinton's email server. An unsecured, private email server that sat in her basement for two years after she stepped down as Secretary of State. No other government official has done what she did. President Obama didn't even know about this server and neither did the State Department. The FBI demanded that Hillary turn over her server, but she deleted 30,000 emails that she claimed were personal. However, she didn't turn over email chains between her and Blumenthal in which they discussed security and policy in Libya. 2,000 of her emails have been marked "classified" and 22 of them have been marked "Top Secret" which means that those emails can't be made public without posing a "grave danger to the United States."

So, she did transmit classified information via her homebrew, vulnerable server.

No one is hoping for an indictment. Many of us are sick about what has happened here, and the fact that our Democratic front runner has an FBI investigation hanging over her head.

The time for childish bullshit is over. We need to take very seriously what is going on in this investigation--as it could affect our entire party and the election.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
42. Oh yeah. Everything is just ducky.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:59 PM
Apr 2016

Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats and currently enjoy a membership rate of 30% and dropping. But the Party is fine. Just fine.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
22. It's was? What does that even mean?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:27 AM
Apr 2016

Obama was under investigation when he ran for president in 2008? How did I miss that?

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
8. We know several of the deleted emails were NOT personal, as Sid Blumenthal turned them over toFBI
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:15 AM
Apr 2016

andHillary did NOT. Howmany others did she destroy?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
20. She isn't destroying the primary, she's destroying the party.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:08 AM
Apr 2016

If she wins the Democratic nomination the party will see a mass exodus of supporters, maybe enough to destroy it or at least lower it to minority status. I doubt she can win the Presidency against any Republican but regardless, win or lose, she will destroy the party.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
10. Not suprised that her fan club dismisses these transgressions, after all, they've dismissed ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 06:23 AM
Apr 2016

... her Iraq War vote, Henry Kissinger, fracking, her advocacy for more H1B visas, her foundation finances, her countless lies and a boatload of other things that would disqualify any other candidate running.


It's all just right-wing smears or Bernie fans to them.

Must be hard to breathe with one's head in the sand.

2cannan

(344 posts)
45. That VRWC has innoculated the Clintons from their stupid
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

mistakes for the past 25 years. What always puzzles me is if you know there are people waiting to investigate everything you do, why do you do such stupid stuff and literally hand them your head on a silver platter?! I guess you can always blame it on that VRWC...

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
12. More on this topic...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:17 AM
Apr 2016

Here's another article about it:

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clinton-email-scandal-is-the-state-department-part-of-a-hillary-cover-up/

but there is very little in the news about any of this, from what I can see.

My thought about why the FBI does not want to release these emails is that, if there is still the prospect of a criminal investigation (of anyone involved), they do not want to make known to all what it is they do and do not have in terms of recovered emails. As a TV detective might say, "let them sweat." If and when these is an indictment, they will need to show their evidence to the defense, but until then, it is to their advantage to play everything close to the vest.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
40. I'm sure that they have all of the emails. Unless she melted down the server, there are
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 03:35 PM
Apr 2016

forensic tools to pull of all or most of them, even if they have been erased and written over. Even with a damaged server, most of them would be retrievable. And the FBI has state of the art digital forensic tools.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
15. This again?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:45 AM
Apr 2016

Some folks are going to be VERY disappointed when this RW GOP-generated "scandal" fizzles like all the rest.



CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
33. This is not a "RW GOP-generated "scandal""
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:06 AM
Apr 2016

The FBI is investigating Clinton's use of a private email server to conduct all of her state business.

This is serious.

It's not a "right wing" thing, unless you believe that the FBI is a right-wing institution conducting a year-long investigation of much ado about nothing?

This is a serious issue that affects the Democratic party.

Mustellus

(328 posts)
19. As long as she didn't trade Top Secret info for Sex.....
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 07:56 AM
Apr 2016

.. like General Petraeus.

No, wait. Betraying your country to get laid is only a misdemenor, and you only pay a fine. That's Petraeus Justice (TM) IOKIYAAR

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
23. That's right, just keep up the drumbeat of speculation and slander.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 08:58 AM
Apr 2016

Does a government official have to release personal and private emails to the public under FOIA? Can I FOIA the personal emails of Rice and Powell?

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
25. Wrong. The drummer is fatally flawed and the candidate has survived many such attempts.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

But don't stop now, Bernie could still win. Or, if you've scared away enough liberals, Clinton could lose the GE. Nice work!

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
26. Thats the goal. No more Clintons and no more Bushes and I can breathe again. I owe nothing to
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:09 AM
Apr 2016

the party that turns it back on my Union labor family and 50-year party members. I vote for my own self interests. It's not my fault if the party chooses not to represent those interests. As it stands, Trump is talking on his General election tour about bringing the jobs back. That's just embarassing for me as a Democrat.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
37. I guess if some people don't have a ral enemy they have to invent one.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

Myself, Trump, Cruz, Bush and other Republicans will do just fine. I support Democrats, especially good ones with tremendous experience, skill, education and intelligence - like Hillary Clinton.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
30. The issue is not personal emails
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 09:37 AM
Apr 2016

The issue is Clinton conducted all state business on a private, unsecured email server that she had sitting in her basement that even the President didn't know about.

Condi Rice and Colin Powell used their .gov computers to send a few personal emails from their personal email accounts (such as yahoo mail or gmail). They NEVER had a private, home-built server sitting in their home.

Anyone who does not understand the GRAVE differences between conducting all state business on a private, vulnerable email server--and sending out a few personal emails on a government-issued computer---needs to just step off. Because you don't know what in the hell you're talking about.

No other government official has EVER done what Clinton has done. Not one. What she's done is unprecedented.

And the FBI is investigating this. Gee, let's all get cute and make jokes and accuse good Democrats of "slander" just because we want to discuss this very serious issue that affects our entire party.

It's CRAZY.

2cannan

(344 posts)
44. Exactly. Anyone who has worked for the (state or fed) government knows that
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

anything you send or receive is subject to public records laws. The fact that she set up her own server shows that her personal emails were more important to her than her work-related ones. What I can't understand is why noone noticed her other email address earlier (like someone on Obama's staff, etc.)!

-none

(1,884 posts)
46. I wondered about that also.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:30 PM
Apr 2016

She had no .gov E-mail address for her SoS business. Why didn't anyone notice at the time?

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