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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:51 AM Apr 2016

Citizens United made Donald Trump possible:

How the GOP establishment flooded the election with money — and ended up drowning itself

Donald Trump cleaned up on Tuesday night, winning an outright majority in the five northeast states that held presidential primaries. Tuesday’s resounding victories brought Trump closer to accruing the 1,237 delegates that will allow him to avoid a convention fight, silencing the chatter of the last few weeks that Trump’s extremism might finally slow his progression towards the Republican nomination.

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Yet this last ditch effort to stop Trump has simply come far too late to do any good. And there’s an underlying, almost delicious irony behind the delay: Citizens United.

One of the things that forestalled a viable Stop Trump movement until the last few weeks is that there was simply too much money sloshing around, permitting candidates like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, and even John Kasich to stay in the race long after it was clear they couldn’t get the nomination. (It admittedly didn’t help that most people hate Ted Cruz, who was the only candidate able to string together more than one or two victories against Trump.) Whereas in previous years, a comparative scarcity of money would have made it easier for the Republican Party to winnow an enormous primary field (and thus heavily influence the outcome), this year the winnowing took months, all the while ensuring the remaining candidates would split opposition to Trump.

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/28/citizens_united_made_donald_trump_possible_how_the_gop_establishment_flooded_the_election_with_money_and_ended_up_drowning_itself/
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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. I said when they passed down that decision (Citizen's United) that they would regret it.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

It is very unusual to see a US political movement disembowel itself in the way the conservatives have done with that decision. What control the national parties have retained was based on the money and access that they could provide, which was already under attack by the various free-lancers and enterpreneurs that usually populate the Congress, and what Trump has shown is that you don't need the national parties for money or access either. They are not required, to play or to win.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Trump and Sanders are both pretty close to unique
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

I'm having trouble thinking of anyone else who could manipulate the M$M the way Trump has...

I'm also having trouble thinking of anyone who could spread Bernie's message with more credibility.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. Regarding Trump: It's been a while since somebody like him made a splash in politics.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

So in that sense, he's recent and uses tech not available to his predecessors in politics. I expect he will not lack for wannabe imitators.

With Bernie I think your case is bettter, he is at least pretty unusual in US politics.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
5. Dunno. CU was a terrible decision, of course, but the current Republican party trainwreck
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

has origins that go back decades

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. There are systemic causes and proximate causes.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:50 AM
Apr 2016

A systemic cause is something that goes back decades, like you mention. In this case that would be the corrupt taking of money for favors by politicians, which goes ALL the way back. It is the rule, not the exception.

A proximate cause is the thing that set it off, the thing that happened right before, the pebble that popped out right before the landslide started.

Now, in this case: systemic corruption, the habit of taking money for favors, is the systemic cause, and CU is the proximate cause, the thing which set it in motion, which chopped off the last restraint.

Most things have many, many causes, everything is tied together, once you start looking into it. There is always disagreement about what is the "background" and what is the "picture".

And now Mr. Trump, by his good example, will cause lots of imitators.

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