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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:40 AM May 2016

Want to Know if the TPP Will Be a Disaster? Just Look at the Korean Trade Deal

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U.S. exports to Korea have been flat since the deal.

By Leo Gerard / AlterNet May 10, 2016

On the fourth anniversary of the Korean trade deal, its lofty promises have been revealed as putrid pie in the sky: More jobs lost. No exports gained.

Just like NAFTA, just like China’s entry into the World Trade Organization (WTO), free traders swore that the Korean deal would shower jobs and economic prosperity down on America.

It didn’t happen. Actually, the exact opposite did. In all three cases, the schemes enticed corporations to close American factories and offshore work. That enriched CEOs and shareholders. But it impoverished millions of American workers and bankrupted communities.


The deal with Korea is the most recent example of just how badly free traders hurt American workers and communities. The promise from free trade promoters was that the Korean deal would expand U.S. business opportunities and “support” 70,000 American jobs. The U.S. International Trade Commission estimated exports to Korea would rise by at least $10 billion.

None of that happened. U.S. exports to Korea have been flat for the entire four years. Meanwhile, imports from Korea rose 26.8 percent. As a result, the U.S. trade deficit with Korea more than doubled in just four years.

That means American workers lost jobs. Instead of Americans manufacturing commodities, Koreans did. Then the goods were shipped to the United States duty free under the deal that was supposed to be so great for American workers.

Robert E. Scott, senior economist and director of trade and manufacturing policy research at the Economic Policy Institute, calculated that in just four years, that trade deficit with Korea cost 95,000 Americans their jobs, mostly in manufacturing.

Free traders bragged at the time the Korean deal was signed that it would finally give American car and parts manufacturers access to the Korean market. And if an increase of less than $1 billion worth of vehicle and parts exports to Korea over four years is access, then it’s a success. By contrast, imports of Korean cars and parts to the United States increased by $10.6 billion over the same period. Frankly, that’s ten times more successful. For Korea.

That’s not the kind of news that devastated former car and car part manufacturing towns like Flint and Ypsilanti, Mich., want to hear after that 70,000-job promise made by those Korean free trade deal pushers. It’s certainly not good news either to devastated steel towns like Duquesne and Monessen, Pa., where the metal for cars and car parts was once forged.


Full article: http://www.alternet.org/labor/want-know-if-tpp-will-be-disaster-just-look-korean-trade-deal?akid=14248.44541.WLqwsA&rd=1&src=newsletter1056345&t=22

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. The problem with these type of analyses -- trade with Korea cost 95,000 American jobs -- is that
Thu May 12, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

the assumption is that if we did not have a trade deficit with Korea, people would have bought similar goods in America. Truth is, if Korean cars, or other products, were not available here -- or were tariffed to prop up American autos -- people would buy cars from Japan, China, Europe. Those tariffs are corporate welfare, BTW.

The analysis uses a formula something like for every $1 Billion of trade deficit, we lose 5,000 to 7,000 jobs or so. But, again, that assumes we'd be as well off if the products were produced here.

And, none of those analyses take into accounts the other benefits of trade agreements like binding countries together and building an alliance that keeps China from writing trade rules for decades.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
3. Why do I picture you trying to sell this to the people standing in the soup lines.
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:25 AM
May 2016

Corporate profits are increasing, production is up, and our working class is dying. Losing jobs, working at low paying jobs, losing homes and education opportunities.

So what do you attribute the growing wealth gap to?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. Not quite right. I am for saving American jobs, homes and retirements for being stolen
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:50 AM
May 2016

by the corporations that you seem to favor over people. NAFTA, one of your corporate Free Trade deals was sold as helping the Mexican workers. Turns out it only helped corporations. Workers in both Mexico and the US suffered.

If I am putting "America First" by trying to save American jobs, what are you, "America sucks the big one"?

I personally see friends, family and neighbors suffering from these Free Trade Corp Agreements. Our foodbank is getting more and more people in food despair with less and less donations (because it's the working class that donates and not your corporate Fat Cats getting rich off these agreements).

Since you won't say where you stand, I assume you are a capitalist/corporatist that doesn't give a crap about the working class.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
7. They have all been disasters when you ask "did they help trade" Trade is just a pretext.
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

They are all about taking over the future world for the wealthy everywhere and ending democracy except as a TV show thats totally fake.

They are an insider joke ON us.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Obama, Hillary, Bill, the DINOs, and the GOP know this very well.
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

The corporations and the banks and the 1% will make out very well on the "trade" deals. They don't actually really care about the rest of us.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. They don't really want us to die, they just want our resources and if we die as the result,
Thu May 12, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016

it's not personal, it's just business. Sadly the Aristocracy has groupies or minions, that are too cowardly to fight for, not only their freedoms but the well being of those suffering. Ask the minions if they don't want to help the 2.5 million homeless children and they will respond, "Of course, but only incrementally. The corporations must have their profits."

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