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pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:54 AM May 2016

The Egregious Double Standards for Bernie and Hillary Supporters in the Media

By Walker Bragman | May 23, 2016 | 11:15am
Photo by Justin Sullivan/Getty

Let’s begin with a thought experiment: What would happen if an aide from Bernie Sanders’ campaign announced that Sanders’ strategy going forward would be to “disqualify” and “defeat” Hillary Clinton with negative ads?

Can you imagine the backlash such a remark would garner in the media? The independent Vermont senator would be accused of bullying, sexism, and a whole mess of other horrible things. Still, this exact situation happened last month, but flipped. Instead of a Sanders aide it was a Clinton aide who made the remark to CNN.

Throughout this primary the Clinton campaign has done its best to tarnish Bernie Sanders with the behavior of his followers, claiming they are bullies and out of control — and it is all Bernie’s fault for using such divisive rhetoric. This strategy makes sense considering the independent senator from Vermont is far more trusted than Hillary Clinton when it comes to which candidate people think is looking out for them. It is good strategy — albeit a dishonest one. But, while the campaign is just doing its job to get the former Secretary of State elected, the media has failed us.


https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/05/the-egregious-double-standards-for-bernie-and-hill.html

Another interesting piece by Walter Bragman.
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The Egregious Double Standards for Bernie and Hillary Supporters in the Media (Original Post) pmorlan1 May 2016 OP
Why? tazkcmo May 2016 #1
The independent Senator from Vermont is "more trusted"... MinnieBlum May 2016 #2
Yeah they can attack him pmorlan1 May 2016 #3
Welcome to DU. Will you be staying long, or just until June 8? Scootaloo May 2016 #4
David needs his sockpuppets. Betty Karlson May 2016 #5
No kidding! chwaliszewski May 2016 #6
^ for the win ^ Myrina May 2016 #10
"the media has given him a free pass" < Obviously you have a unique grasp of the situtation. jtuck004 May 2016 #7
Bernie's success owes a tremendous debt to Hortensis May 2016 #9
Bernie fans are conspiracy freaks too MinnieBlum May 2016 #12
Yup, he's drawing from both far right and far left. Hortensis May 2016 #15
Hillary's speech videos and transcripts for Bernie's past tax returns. JDPriestly May 2016 #8
If his tax returns are "boring" MinnieBlum May 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author KPN May 2016 #11
And because Hillary has a long history of proven lies, which are impossible to erase Doctor_J May 2016 #16
What would happen? Hillary's surrogates bitch and moan nonstop about that anyway. forest444 May 2016 #14
yep oldandhappy May 2016 #17

MinnieBlum

(38 posts)
2. The independent Senator from Vermont is "more trusted"...
Tue May 24, 2016, 01:08 AM
May 2016

because the media has never vetted him, he hasn't bothered to reveal his tax returns, the media has given him a free pass and the GOP is giving him a wide berth in the hopes he can take down Hillary. Of course, if he does take down Hillary, the GOP can destroy Bernie vis-a-vis the mainstream in 30 seconds.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
3. Yeah they can attack him
Tue May 24, 2016, 01:13 AM
May 2016

Hillary is +3 over Trump right now. Bernie is +15 over Trump. Whoever runs against Trump will be attacked. That would have to be one helluva an attack to drive Bernies numbers as low as hers are now. And when he attacks her, her numbers go down too. Get real.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
5. David needs his sockpuppets.
Tue May 24, 2016, 02:30 AM
May 2016

Just like Debbie needs her loansharks.

And Hillary needs Goldman Sachs.

Praise Nancy!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
7. "the media has given him a free pass" < Obviously you have a unique grasp of the situtation.
Tue May 24, 2016, 03:17 AM
May 2016



Perhaps it will serve you in good stead. On the other side of the door.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Bernie's success owes a tremendous debt to
Tue May 24, 2016, 06:55 AM
May 2016

irresponsible media inflation of his candidacy, constantly encouraging people to believe his chances of winning were far greater than they were. The day the NY Times reported under a small-font heading that the previous day's primary/delegate results meant Bernie now could not win, that he would need more delegates than remained, above that a large-font header trumpeted Bernie's new "surge."

And, of course, Bernie has never been "vetted" by the major media. Quite the contrary. They constantly report how much he is trusted, never pointing out that almost nobody who "trusts" him knows anything about him. Instead, they would be left with a lot to find out about for the first ime in grossly distorted versions via the GOP's character assassination industry if that were to engage.

MinnieBlum

(38 posts)
12. Bernie fans are conspiracy freaks too
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

I swear I don't know where his little fans come from. They aren't Dems. They parrot old neocon attacks on the Clintons. They are paranoid with conspiracy theories.

Sound like right wingers to me.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Yup, he's drawing from both far right and far left.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016

Both personality types have a great deal more in common with each other than either does with the more mainstream conservatives and liberals supposedly on their "side" of the ideological spectrum.

One of the most alarming things I've read fairly recently is that people can become more extremist just by hanging with extremists and that groups can become more extreme in reaction to other groups. That's caused me to wonder if social media isn't developing whole populations who think "democracy" means the most ruthlessly intolerant side wins. In the U.S., what are our permanent election seasons, two years long every two years doing to us?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. Hillary's speech videos and transcripts for Bernie's past tax returns.
Tue May 24, 2016, 03:18 AM
May 2016

Seems fair to me.

Hillary claims to be the "front-runner." Let her disclose her speech videos and transcripts first.

Bernie's tax returns will be boring. He has already declared his financial statements as a member of Congress.

MinnieBlum

(38 posts)
13. If his tax returns are "boring"
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:18 AM
May 2016

as opposed to filled with juicy tidbits that would tarnish him in the eyes of his supporters... why hasn't Jane (who is paid $80K A MONTH as some sort of campaign adviser - I guess she's as qualified for that as she is for the other well-paid job Bernie got her, disposing of nuclear waste for the State of Vermont) made the time to disclose them?

Worried about that big payoff she got (because her hubby's Bernie) from Burlington College after she and her daughter ran in into the ground?

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Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
16. And because Hillary has a long history of proven lies, which are impossible to erase
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:08 PM
May 2016

So there's that

forest444

(5,902 posts)
14. What would happen? Hillary's surrogates bitch and moan nonstop about that anyway.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

They simply pretend he is “going forward with ads to disqualify and defeat” Hillary Clinton, regardless of how much he refrains from doing so.

It's all about the narrative.

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