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struggle4progress

(118,301 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:01 PM May 2016

The Confederate flag is about hate, not heritage

By John Counts
on May 26, 2016 at 7:30 AM
updated May 27, 2016 at 11:58 PM

My ancestors happened to fight on the losing side of the Civil War ...

Still, I cringed when I saw .. the Confederates of Michigan .. rally Sunday along a freeway south of Jackson ...

There are a lot of wonderful things about the South ...

Institutional slavery and the Confederate States of America that arose to defend it are not among those, however ...

... just because you have the right to say something doesn't mean it's good .. to say it ...


http://www.mlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/05/the_confederate_flag_is_about.html

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The Confederate flag is about hate, not heritage (Original Post) struggle4progress May 2016 OP
The KKK and the white supremacist should have been prevented from using that flag... dubyadiprecession May 2016 #1
The White flag of surrender safeinOhio May 2016 #2
or both: the heritage of hate nt msongs May 2016 #3
I don't know if you've ever seen this before... inanna May 2016 #4
That was fun! struggle4progress May 2016 #6
Yep! inanna May 2016 #7
They need to be shown in context: lynchings, night riders, slaves with no where to go..... marble falls May 2016 #5

dubyadiprecession

(5,716 posts)
1. The KKK and the white supremacist should have been prevented from using that flag...
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:18 PM
May 2016

by the southern populace long ago. The stars and bars originally represented a states rights defiance to the federal government. Now since those terrorist groups used it, it is forever stained by their hate.

inanna

(3,547 posts)
4. I don't know if you've ever seen this before...
Sat May 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

but you might get a kick out of it:

How I Infiltrated a White Pride Facebook Group and Turned It into 'LGBT Southerners for Michelle Obama'

A snippet from link:

Predictably, many Confederate Facebook posts consist of proud displays of the Confederate flag—on tattoos, in wedding photos, flanked by flaming blue skulls, airbrushed onto truck windows, whatever. But then you can find people freaking out at the possibility that Obama might arrest them for posting racist stuff on Facebook, or getting mad that people are calling them racist.

I was beginning to feel stupefied and distressed, and my friends were complaining that all their recommended friends now had Confederate flag avatars as well. While some of the Confederate Facebookers were plum happy to have me on board—check out this weirdly adorable picture of a bowing horse someone sent me!—others, like the guy who told me to "run off and join ISIS," were not.

Just when I was about to unfriend them all and start drinking, I was invited to a private group of about 2,500 called "confederate pride, heritage not hate."

The group consisted of more of the same good ol' boy palaver about Southern Pride and Confederate Lives Matter, peppered with tirades from a handful of out-and-out Stormfront white supremacists and neo-Nazis. I added a few dozen of my friends, who promptly started trolling the shit out of the group.


struggle4progress

(118,301 posts)
6. That was fun!
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:34 PM
May 2016
... I swooped in and offered to clean up this manufactured crisis ... A top-down rebranding was in order. After rigorous focus-group testing, I decided to align the group with LGBT rights, Michelle Obama, Judaism, miscegenation, and the victorious Juche ideology. And that is how "confederate pride, heritage not hate" became "LGBT Southerners for Michelle Obama and Judaism" ... Sadly not everyone was happy about these alterations ... So I made 50 of my friends administrators to help enforce the transition ...


marble falls

(57,114 posts)
5. They need to be shown in context: lynchings, night riders, slaves with no where to go.....
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:32 PM
May 2016

they need to put hoods on the ones that became KKK, and a line of slaves behind the ones that owned slaves. Replace their swords with whips and cudgels.

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