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That's not funny, PC humor on campus - The Atlantic
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/-- snip
Two of the most respected American comedians, Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld, have discussed the unique problems that comics face on college campuses. In November, Rock told Frank Rich in an interview for New York magazine that he no longer plays colleges, because theyre too conservative. He didnt necessarily mean that the students were Republican; he meant that they were far too eager not to offend anybody. In college gigs, he said, you cant even be offensive on your way to being inoffensive. Then, in June, Seinfeld reopened the debateand set off a frenzied round of op-edswhen he said in a radio interview that comics warn him not to go near collegestheyre so PC.
When I attended the convention in Minneapolis in February, I saw ample evidence of the repressive atmosphere that Rock and Seinfeld described, as well as another, not unrelated factor: the infantilization of the American undergraduate, and this characters evolving status in the world of higher learningless a student than a consumer, someone whose whims and affectations (political, sexual, pseudo-intellectual) must be constantly supported and championed. To understand this change, it helps to think of college not as an institution of scholarly pursuit but as the all-inclusive resort that it has in recent years becomeand then to think of the undergraduate who drops out or transfers as an early checkout. Keeping hold of that kid for all four years has become a central obsession of the higher-ed-industrial complex. How do you do it? In part, by importing enough jesters and bards to keep him from wandering away to someplace more entertaining, taking his Pell grant and his 529 plan and his student loans with him.
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That's not funny, PC humor on campus - The Atlantic (Original Post)
flamingdem
Aug 2016
OP
The students shown in this comedy video would make me run for the hills.
Buckeye_Democrat
Aug 2016
#2
flamingdem
(39,331 posts)1. New to me - the frat boys and "free speech"
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Meanwhileas obvious reaction to all of thisfrat boys and other campus punksters regularly flout the thought police by staging events along elaborately racist themes, events that, while patently vile, are beginning to constitute the free-speech movement of our time. The closest youre going to get to Mario Saviosick at heart about the operation of the machine and willing to throw himself upon its gears and leversis less the campus president of Human Rights Watch than the moron over at Phi Sigma Kappa who plans the Colonial Bros and Nava-Hos mixer.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)2. The students shown in this comedy video would make me run for the hills.
flamingdem
(39,331 posts)3. I love Triumph the Insult Dog
Come to think of it he hasn't been around at the conventions. I think he's being censored or something.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)5. He was at the conventions. There's some videos of it on YouTube. n/t
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)4. People are so cereal these days. No fun allowed!
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)6. "Minbari humor"
Minbari humor is based, not on physical danger, or embarrassment or rejection like human humor, but rather on the failure to attain emotional or spiritual enlightenment...
"Rebo" on Babylon 5 "Day of the Dead,"
Original air date: March 11, 1998
Written by Neil Gaiman
Directed by Doug Lefler (bold added)
"Rebo" on Babylon 5 "Day of the Dead,"
Original air date: March 11, 1998
Written by Neil Gaiman
Directed by Doug Lefler (bold added)
Video excerpt https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=C7mBC9nZtiw
From the article in the OP:
Feraz Ozel mused about the first time hed ever done stand-up: three minutes on giving his girlfriend herpes and banging his grandma. That was out.
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They wanted comedy so thoroughly scrubbed of barb and aggression...
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...less a student than a consumer, someone whose whims and affectations (political, sexual, pseudo-intellectual) must be constantly supported and championed.
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His <Kevin Yee> last song, about the close relationship that can develop between a gay man and his sassy black friend, was a killer closer; the kids roared in delight, and several African American young women in the crowd seemed to be self-identifying as sassy black friends. I assumed Yee would soon be barnstorming the country. But afterward, two white students from an Iowa college shook their heads: no. He was perpetuating stereotypes, one of them said, firmly. Were a very forward-thinking school, she told me. That thing about the sassy black friend? That wouldnt work for us. (bold added)
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They wanted comedy so thoroughly scrubbed of barb and aggression...
<snip>
...less a student than a consumer, someone whose whims and affectations (political, sexual, pseudo-intellectual) must be constantly supported and championed.
<snip>
His <Kevin Yee> last song, about the close relationship that can develop between a gay man and his sassy black friend, was a killer closer; the kids roared in delight, and several African American young women in the crowd seemed to be self-identifying as sassy black friends. I assumed Yee would soon be barnstorming the country. But afterward, two white students from an Iowa college shook their heads: no. He was perpetuating stereotypes, one of them said, firmly. Were a very forward-thinking school, she told me. That thing about the sassy black friend? That wouldnt work for us. (bold added)
(Note: this is what happens when you hear words but have no ability to discuss why it's not words but concepts, tone, intent, ideas, understanding the micro in the midst of the macro whole, that those words convey. It's about understanding what was really meant when Robert Frost wrote "good fences make good neighbors." In other words, when students become "consumers" rather than thinkers. It's what happens when the rabid right turns education into a bullying session for shits and grins and to destroy our educational system. Mission Accomplished)
The Myth of Political Correctness: The Conservative Attack on Higher Education
Author(s): John K. Wilson
Published: 1995
Description
The classics of Western culture are out, not being taught, replaced by second-rate and Third World texts. White males are a victimized minority on campuses across the country, thanks to affirmative action. Speech codes have silenced anyone who wont toe the liberal line. Feminists, wielding their brand of sexual correctness, have taken over. These are among the prevalent myths about higher education that John K. Wilson explodes.
The phrase "political correctness" is on everyones lips, on radio and television, and in newspapers and magazines. The phenomenon itself, however, has been deceptively described. Wilson steps into the nations favorite cultural fray to reveal that many of the most widely publicized anecdotes about PC are in fact more myth than reality. Based on his own experience as a student and in-depth research, he shows whats really going on beneath the hysteria and alarmism about political correctness and finds that the most disturbing examples of thought policing on campus have come from the right. The image of the college campus as a gulag of left-wing totalitarianism is false, argues Wilson, created largely through the exaggeration of deceptive stories by conservatives who hypocritically seek to silence their political opponents.
Many of todays most controversial topics are here: multiculturalism, reverse discrimination, speech codes, date rape, and sexual harassment. So are the well-recognized protagonists in the debate: Dinesh DSouza, William Bennett, and Lynne Cheney, among others. In lively fashion and in meticulous detail, Wilson compares fact to fiction and lays one myth after another to rest, revealing the double standard that allows "conservative correctness" on college campuses to go unchallenged. (italics in original)
Author(s): John K. Wilson
Published: 1995
Description
The classics of Western culture are out, not being taught, replaced by second-rate and Third World texts. White males are a victimized minority on campuses across the country, thanks to affirmative action. Speech codes have silenced anyone who wont toe the liberal line. Feminists, wielding their brand of sexual correctness, have taken over. These are among the prevalent myths about higher education that John K. Wilson explodes.
The phrase "political correctness" is on everyones lips, on radio and television, and in newspapers and magazines. The phenomenon itself, however, has been deceptively described. Wilson steps into the nations favorite cultural fray to reveal that many of the most widely publicized anecdotes about PC are in fact more myth than reality. Based on his own experience as a student and in-depth research, he shows whats really going on beneath the hysteria and alarmism about political correctness and finds that the most disturbing examples of thought policing on campus have come from the right. The image of the college campus as a gulag of left-wing totalitarianism is false, argues Wilson, created largely through the exaggeration of deceptive stories by conservatives who hypocritically seek to silence their political opponents.
Many of todays most controversial topics are here: multiculturalism, reverse discrimination, speech codes, date rape, and sexual harassment. So are the well-recognized protagonists in the debate: Dinesh DSouza, William Bennett, and Lynne Cheney, among others. In lively fashion and in meticulous detail, Wilson compares fact to fiction and lays one myth after another to rest, revealing the double standard that allows "conservative correctness" on college campuses to go unchallenged. (italics in original)
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)7. Seinfeld shouldn't go near colleges
because he is about as funny as colon cancer