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Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:14 PM Aug 2016

Coming This Fall: The Sublime Revenge Of Barack Obama

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/coming-this-fall-the-subl_b_10925030.html

...In the wake of the slaughter in Orlando, Trump shamed himself by spewing self-congratulations combined with demagoguery, lies, and practical and moral idiocy — scapegoating Syrian refugees and every Muslim abroad; suggesting that American Muslims at large were complicit in terror; labeling Obama’s careful effort to distinguish between Terrace and all Muslims as weak; and, perhaps most loathsome, questioning the president’s loyalty.

With palpable contempt, Obama eviscerated all this. He then reminded us that “we don’t have religious tests here” and that “we’ve seen our government mistreat our fellow citizens, and that has been a shameful part of our history.” And, by doing so, he reminded us of the ways in which Donald Trump would not only undermine our security, but our values.

But that response was the grim duty of a president faced with tragedy. At the Democratic convention, we got a glimpse of how Obama will eviscerate Trump — for the emptiness of the man, and the stunted prism through which he views America. And after Trump demeaned the Khan family, Obama used the moral authority of his office to challenge Trump’s fitness to hold it.

Come the fall, Barack Obama will be free to mount an argument in his own time and way, giving everything he has to make sure that the next president embraces, not destroys, the values he has brought to the office. And, by doing this, he will exact his well-earned reprisal on Donald Trump, dispatching him from public life with the back of his hand.
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Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
2. Yeah, I'm not sure what 3D chess BS can be used to make TPP sound good.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:49 PM
Aug 2016

I keep hearing that, on some geopolitical level, it will marginalize (or slow the resurgence) of China.
As devastating as it will be to US manufacturing, wages, and our environment, the part I fear most is how it will further enshrine the power of mult-national corporations.

Seems like a present-day economic version of the Vietnam era quote "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it.".

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. well, the corporadoes and their owned politicos are busy destroying the planet to save it...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:53 PM
Aug 2016

"Save it" for some short term profit-harvesting, I guess.

And not for much else.

SCantiGOP

(13,874 posts)
4. Not interested in debating this subject, but
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:05 PM
Aug 2016

Do you ever ask yourself why Obama is in favor of TPP? Does he have a history of siding with Corporate America over the greater good of the lower and middle class? Might it just be that he, who is an intelligent man and who has studied this subject far more than any poster on DU, thinks this is good for (A) America and (B) the world?
Most objective articles I have read, by non-partisan economists and experts, accept that free trade is absolutely necessary in the modern world economy. The jobs that have been lost cannot be brought back because they would never be competitive in an advanced economy like the US. If free trade agreements had a role in moving those jobs offshore it was just an acceleration of a process that was going to occur inevitably.
Not trying to ruffle any feathers, and I do realize that this is a minority opinion here. Flame away, friends.

3catwoman3

(24,054 posts)
5. I confess to not having researched this topic, so I have no...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:41 PM
Aug 2016

...wisdom of my own to offer. I have asked myself your question several times. If someone as intelligent as President Obama is in favor of this, is there something he understands about it that we do not? I am generally inclined to trust his analysis of issues.

 

FighttheFuture

(1,313 posts)
6. Many good people are very much against these deals:. Hartmann, Sanders, even Krugman!!!
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

Krugman was most surprising to me because he was sort of for it (Globalization) for quite some time, and in some ways still is. However, he seemed to wake up to the political realities; he's basically called this "free-trade" crap a scam perpetrated by the elites. From March, 2016:

But it’s also true that much of the elite defense of globalization is basically dishonest: false claims of inevitability, scare tactics (protectionism causes depressions!), vastly exaggerated claims for the benefits of trade liberalization and the costs of protection, hand-waving away the large distributional effects that are what standard models actually predict. I hope, by the way, that I haven’t done any of that; I think I’ve always been clear that the gains from globalization aren’t all that (here’s a back-of-the-envelope on the gains from hyperglobalization — only part of which can be attributed to policy — that is less than 5 percent of world GDP over a generation); and I think I’ve never assumed away the income distribution effects.

Furthermore, as Mark Kleiman sagely observes, the conventional case for trade liberalization relies on the assertion that the government could redistribute income to ensure that everyone wins — but we now have an ideology utterly opposed to such redistribution in full control of one party, and with blocking power against anything but a minor move in that direction by the other.

So the elite case for ever-freer trade is largely a scam, which voters probably sense even if they don’t know exactly what form it’s taking.

... it is fair to say that the case for more trade agreements — including TPP, which hasn’t happened yet — is very, very weak.
And if a progressive makes it to the White House, she should devote no political capital whatsoever to such things.
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