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Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:54 AM Aug 2016

US War Crimes or ‘Normalized Deviance’

By Nicolas J.S. Davies

....Within the high priesthood that now manages U.S. foreign policy, advancement and success are based on conformity with this elastic culture of normalized deviance. Whistle-blowers are punished or even prosecuted, and people who question the prevailing deviant culture are routinely and efficiently marginalized, not promoted to decision-making positions.

For example, once U.S. officials had accepted the Orwellian “doublethink” that “targeted killings,” or “manhunts” as Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called them, do not violate long-standing prohibitions against assassination, even a new administration could not walk that decision back without forcing a deviant culture to confront the wrong-headedness and illegality of its original decision.

Then, once the Obama administration had massively escalated the CIA’s drone program as an alternative to kidnapping and indefinite detention at Guantanamo, it became even harder to acknowledge that this is a policy of cold-blooded murder that provokes widespread anger and hostility and is counter-productive to legitimate counterterrorism goals – or to admit that it violates the U.N. Charter’s prohibition on the use of force, as U.N. special rapporteurs on extrajudicial killings have warned.

Underlying such decisions is the role of U.S. government lawyers who provide legal cover for them, but who are themselves shielded from accountability by U.S. non-recognition of international courts and the extraordinary deference of U.S. courts to the Executive Branch on matters of “national security.” These lawyers enjoy a privilege that is unique in their profession, issuing legal opinions that they will never have to defend before impartial courts to provide legal fig-leaves for war crimes....


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45293.htm

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US War Crimes or ‘Normalized Deviance’ (Original Post) Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2016 OP
When the media started using the word "Warrantless" I knew we were screwed KeepItReal Aug 2016 #1
Now let's see his essay on other nation's "war crimes"... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #2
If you were attempting to make... Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2016 #3
Just an offhand comment... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #4
Well, smear rhetoric is a whole lot easier than... Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2016 #5
Especially when I'm just repeating the same reasoned arguments Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #6
Meanwhile, I'll just leave this here and see myself out Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #7
The New Yorker? Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2016 #8
So you deny what's in the New Yorker report? Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #9
YOU again? Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2016 #10
I ain't leaving... Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #11
Gee, I must've misunderstood... Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2016 #12

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
1. When the media started using the word "Warrantless" I knew we were screwed
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:26 AM
Aug 2016

Wiretapping without a warrant used to be illegal.

Bush & Co. didn't even bother with the rubber stamp FISA court.

But impeachment was off the table...

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
3. If you were attempting to make...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:35 PM
Aug 2016

...some point with this comment, I'm afraid I've missed it -- please feel free to clarify/elaborate.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. Just an offhand comment...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:35 PM
Aug 2016

It was of no consequence..

My thoughts about that author are already well documented here

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
5. Well, smear rhetoric is a whole lot easier than...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:30 PM
Aug 2016

...reasoned argumentation, I'll have to give you that much.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. So you deny what's in the New Yorker report?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:15 PM
Aug 2016

That's your ignorance on display chief, and I feel sorry for you... I mean, did you even bother to read it?

Here's Amnesty International's take for good measure (who is repeatedly cited in Mr. Davies' piece so ignore it at your own peril): https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde24/4508/2016/en/

Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
10. YOU again?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 05:33 PM
Aug 2016

Trouble finding your way out?

Don't you ever get tired of showing up on my threads only to spew nothing but Fox News BS talking points?

'Cause I don't mind telling you, it certainly has become tiresome.





Mr_Jefferson_24

(8,559 posts)
12. Gee, I must've misunderstood...
Fri Aug 19, 2016, 09:16 AM
Aug 2016

...your post #7. My bad.

In any case, tiresome as your rhetoric may be, thanks for keeping this thread kicked.





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