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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 11:16 AM Feb 2012

The Lost Party (a great and long read on the dying gop)

I highly recommend this long article, especially if you haven't been following the republican race and want to get caught up.

The Lost Party
The strangest primary season in memory reveals a GOP that’s tearing itself apart.

By John Heilemann

On a biting, brittle mid-February morning 30 miles north of Detroit, Rick Santorum plants his flag in a patch of turf as politically fertile as exists in these United States. For three decades, Macomb County, Michigan, has been both a bellwether and a battleground, as its fabled Reagan Democrats first abandoned the party of Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, and Mike Dukakis, then gradually drifted back in support of Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Barack Obama. Today in ­Macomb, the action is as much on the Republican as the Democratic side, with the county GOP riven by a split between mainstream and tea-party cadres. And yet in demographic terms, Macomb remains Macomb: overwhelmingly white and mostly non-college-­educated, heavily Catholic and staunchly socially conservative, economically anti-globalist and culturally anti-swell.

All of which is to say that when Santorum takes the podium to address a Michigan Faith & Freedom Coalition rally in Shelby Charter Township, the 1,500 souls he sees before him are his kind of people—and soon enough he is speaking their language. To explain how America has always differed from other nations, Santorum invokes the Almighty: “We believe … we are children of a loving God.” To elucidate the evils of Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and cap-and-trade, he inveighs against liberal elites: “They want to control you, because like the kings of old, they believe they know better than you.” To highlight what’s at stake in 2012, he unfurls a grand (and entirely farkakte) historical flourish: “This decision will be starker than at any time since the election of 1860”—you know, the one featuring Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas on the eve of the Civil War.

But before the nation faces that decision, Michigan has its own to make: between him and Mitt Romney in the Republican primary that takes place on February 28. “Do you want somebody who can go up against Barack Obama, take him on on the big issues … or do you want someone who can just manage Washington a little bit better?” Santorum asks, as the audience rises cheering to its feet. “That’s your choice. What does Michigan have to say?”

What Michiganders are telling pollsters is that their affections are split evenly between the two men, despite Romney’s status as the scion of one of the Wolverine State’s great political families. In Ohio, arguably the most important of ten states with primaries or caucuses on Super Tuesday, March 6, two recent surveys found Santorum holding a wide lead there, and the Gallup national tracking poll put him ahead of Romney by eight points as of February 24. Taken together, all this more than makes clear that Santorum has emerged as the dominant conservative alternative to Romney. It illustrates a shift in momentum so pronounced that, unless Romney takes Michigan and fares strongly on Super Tuesday, his ascension to his party’s nomination will be in serious jeopardy, as the calls for a late-entering white-knight candidate escalate—and odds of an up-for-grabs Republican convention rise. “Right now, I’d say they’re one in five,” says one of the GOP’s grandest grandees. “If Romney doesn’t put this thing away by Super Tuesday, I’d say they’re closer to 50-50.”

http://nymag.com/news/features/gop-primary-heilemann-2012-3/

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Pirate Smile

(27,617 posts)
1. Another great read to go with that one:
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 12:26 PM
Feb 2012
2012 or Never
Republicans are worried this election could be their last chance to stop history. This is fear talking. But not paranoia.


By Jonathan Chait
Published Feb 26, 2012

Of the various expressions of right-wing hysteria that have flowered over the past three years�goldbuggery, birtherism, death panels at home and imaginary apology tours by President Obama abroad�perhaps the strain that has taken deepest root within mainstream Republican circles is the terror that the achievements of the Obama administration may be irreversible, and that the time remaining to stop permanent nightfall is dwindling away.

�America is approaching a �tipping point’ beyond which the Nation will be unable to change course,� announces the dark, old-timey preamble to Paul Ryan’s �The Roadmap Plan,� a statement of fiscal principles that shaped the budget outline approved last spring by 98 percent of the House Republican caucus. Rick Santorum warns his audiences, �We are reaching a tipping point, folks, when those who pay are the minority and those who receive are the majority.� Even such a sober figure as Mitt Romney regularly says things like �We are only inches away from no longer being a free economy,� and that this election �could be our last chance.�

The Republican Party is in the grips of many fever dreams. But this is not one of them. To be sure, the apocalyptic ideological analysis�that �freedom� is incompatible with Clinton-era tax rates and Massachusetts-style health care�is pure crazy. But the panicked strategic analysis, and the sense of urgency it gives rise to, is actually quite sound. The modern GOP�the party of Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes�is staring down its own demographic extinction. Right-wing warnings of impending tyranny express, in hyperbolic form, well-grounded dread: that conservative America will soon come to be dominated, in a semi-permanent fashion, by an ascendant Democratic coalition hostile to its outlook and interests. And this impending doom has colored the party’s frantic, fearful response to the Obama presidency.

The GOP has reason to be scared. Obama’s election was the vindication of a prediction made several years before by journalist John Judis and political scientist Ruy Teixeira in their 2002 book, The Emerging Democratic Majority. Despite the fact that George W. Bush then occupied the White House, Judis and Teixeira argued that demographic and political trends were converging in such a way as to form a �natural-majority coalition for Democrats.

http://nymag.com/print/?/news/features/gop-primary-chait-2012-3/


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starroute

(12,977 posts)
2. Those diamonds replace a character that Unicode can't identify
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:01 PM
Feb 2012

See http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=92743 for somewhat vague explanations.

It looks like the quotation marks and dashes are all encoded in a non-standard manner so they're not coming through properly.

eppur_se_muova

(36,263 posts)
3. Those little diamonds are why people shouldn't use "smart quotes" ...
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 02:58 PM
Feb 2012

not every application, including Web browsers, can handle smart quotes.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
5. Why do all of these "gop is dying" articles appear after what happened 15 months ago?
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

we took an epic shellacking in Nov 2010, and yet there are all of these predictions of the wingers being on life support.



they're not going away until we dislodge hate radio by any means necessary.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
6. That is addressed in the article.
Mon Feb 27, 2012, 03:59 PM
Feb 2012

The article shows that there is a clear split in the party. When the to-be nominee ends up losing to Obama, it is likely that the nominee will get the blame. If it is Romney who loses to Obama, the party will go harder right, and no longer be a palatable national party. If it is Santorum who loses, it will move towards the business center and away from the social radicalism.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
7. I think the last 20 years should have made it clear
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:27 AM
Feb 2012

that they can move as far as they want to the right and still remain viable. This statement

If it is Romney who loses to Obama, the party will go harder right, and no longer be a palatable national party.

is nothing but wishful thinking

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. Do you think Santorum is a viable national candiate?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:51 AM
Feb 2012

Do you think someone more radical than Santorum would be?

I don't. I don't see a path to 270 for Santorum.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. Absolutely not
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:21 PM
Feb 2012

that is much different from the Repukes being viable national party. through SuperPAC's, voter suppression, hate radio, and cable TV, they can easily retain enough presence in Congress to destroy the country. The current Congress is as radical as the US has had in more than 100 years. Thus it is easy to deduce that 2010 electorate was able to elect the most radical Congress in more than a century. Why would that change?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
10. I take your point on the tea party congress.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 01:26 PM
Feb 2012

However, they have proved incredibly ineffective. By being more anti-Obama than anything, they haven't done their cause any favors, including (and especially) among economic conservatives. The gop is regretting ever opening the doors to the tea party monster.

If the party goes harder right on social issues and continues to ignore establishment conservatives, the establishment conservatives will no longer stick with them. I expect the tea party to be hit hard in 2012. If the gop chooses to go back to that type of far-right platform, they will become a regional party only.

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