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proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 11:47 AM Oct 2016

Invitation for advocates of GMO crops.

https://www.independentsciencenews.org/un-sustainable-farming/cornell-faculty-refuse-to-defend-gmo-crops/

Cornell Faculty Refuse to Defend GMO Crops
October 4, 2016

by Jonathan Latham, PhD


Who would have thought that at Cornell University, arguably the most highly regarded agricultural university in the world, no scientist would speak for the benefits and safety of GMOs?

...So will anyone debate Michael Hanson (of the Consumers Union) and myself at Cornell University on October 5th at 7pm in Anabel Taylor Hall? If you are reading this and have a PhD in a relevant field and wish to defend GMOs we hereby invite you. And if the Alliance for Science, funded by the Gates foundation, can’t find you travel money I am sure we can. Otherwise, the debate may constitute GMO talking points read out by cardboard cutouts. Bill and Melinda Gates may even consider they are entitled to demand their money back from the Cornell Alliance. Or they may just infer for themselves that GMOs are indeed indefensible.

References

Lurquin P. (2016) Production of a toxic metabolite in 2,4-D-resistant GM crop plants. 3 Biotech 6: 82. doi:10.1007/s13205-016-0387-9

Correction: this article previously implied that Karl Haro von Mogel works at the Genetic Literacy Project. This is not the case. He is at Biology Fortified.

Link from: https://twitter.com/BioSRP/status/783292004071596032
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Invitation for advocates of GMO crops. (Original Post) proverbialwisdom Oct 2016 OP
I imagine no one will debate radical noodle Oct 2016 #1
Latham's article published on Robyn O'Brien's site provides an excellent rebuttal. proverbialwisdom Oct 2016 #2
If a population that large is conduming GMP products, that's huge sample to work with. Nitram Oct 2016 #6
This scientist loves GMO crops! 4lbs Oct 2016 #3
Brundlefly says he loves GMO crops! 4lbs Oct 2016 #4
A science-based debate would be interesting. Nitram Oct 2016 #5

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
1. I imagine no one will debate
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:04 PM
Oct 2016

because Latham is considered by many scientists to be a kook.

In fact, Latham and Wilson are something close to DNA denialists – that is, they reject the idea that genes can be the common causes of illnesses and disease; that is: genes play no role whatsoever, not only smaller role than expected. In short, Latham and Wilson call for a paradigm shift. Their contentions have of course been rejected by most people familiar with the topics, but moreover, their arguments contain such cherry-picking and deliberate distortion of the existing literature that it is hard to avoid drawing a parallel to the Intelligent Design movement.


More at: http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2014/01/864-jonathan-latham-allison-wilson.html

Also found this that Cornell has online:

In a rational world, everyone previously fearful about the health effects of GMOs would read the report, breathe a huge sigh of relief and start looking for more evidence-based explanations for worrying trends in health issues like diabetes, autism and food allergies. But psychological associations developed over many years are difficult to break. A Pew Center poll in 2015 found only 37 percent of the public thought GE foods were safe, as compared to 88 percent of scientists, a greater gap than on any other issue of scientific controversy, including climate change, evolution and childhood vaccinations. These entrenched attitudes are not about to disappear — especially since they are continually reinforced by a vocal and well-funded anti-GMO lobby.


More at: http://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/mark-lynas/gmo-safety-debate-over

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
2. Latham's article published on Robyn O'Brien's site provides an excellent rebuttal.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:49 PM
Oct 2016
http://robynobrien.com/gmos-a-gmo-scientist-questions-their-safety-and-purpose/

GMOs: A GMO Scientist Questions Their Safety and Purpose
September 3, 2015

By Jonathan R Latham, PhD


By training, I am a plant biologist. In the early 1990s I was busy making genetically modified plants (often called GMOs for Genetically Modified Organisms) as part of the research that led to my PhD. Into these plants we were putting DNA from various foreign organisms, such as viruses and bacteria.

I was not, at the outset, concerned about the possible effects of GM plants on human health or the environment. One reason for this lack of concern was that I was still a very young scientist, feeling my way in the complex world of biology and of scientific research. Another reason was that we hardly imagined that GMOs like ours would be grown or eaten. So far as I was concerned, all GMOs were for research purposes only.

Gradually, however, it became clear that certain companies thought differently. Some of my older colleagues shared their skepticism with me that commercial interests were running far ahead of scientific knowledge. I listened carefully and I didn’t disagree. Today, over twenty years later, GMO crops, especially soybeans, corn, papaya, canola and cotton, are commercially grown in numerous parts of the world.

Depending on which country you live in, GMOs may be unlabeled and therefore unknowingly abundant in your diet. Processed foods (e.g. chips, breakfast cereals, sodas) are likely to contain ingredients from GMO crops, because they are often made from corn or soy. Most agricultural crops, however, are still non-GMO, including rice, wheat, barley, oats, tomatoes, grapes and beans.

For meat eaters the nature of GMO consumption is different. There are no GMO animals used in farming (although GM salmon has been pending FDA approval since 1993); however, animal feed, especially in factory farms or for fish farming, is likely to be GMO corn and GMO soybeans. In which case the labeling issue, and potential for impacts on your health, are complicated.

I now believe, as a much more experienced scientist, that GMO crops still run far ahead of our understanding of their risks. In broad outline, the reasons for this belief are quite simple. I have become much more appreciative of the complexity of biological organisms and their capacity for benefits and harms. As a scientist I have become much more humble about the capacity of science to do more than scratch the surface in its understanding of the deep complexity and diversity of the natural world. To paraphrase a cliché, I more and more appreciate that as scientists we understand less and less.

The Flawed Processes of GMO Risk Assessment

Some of my concerns with GMOs are “just” practical ones. I have read numerous GMO risk assessment applications. These are the documents that governments rely on to ‘prove’ their safety. Though these documents are quite long and quite complex, their length is misleading in that they primarily ask (and answer) trivial questions. Furthermore, the experiments described within them are often very inadequate and sloppily executed. Scientific controls are often missing, procedures and reagents are badly described, and the results are often ambiguous or uninterpretable. I do not believe that this ambiguity and apparent incompetence is accidental. It is common, for example, for multinational corporations, whose labs have the latest equipment, to use outdated methodologies. When the results show what the applicants want, nothing is said. But when the results are inconvenient, and raise red flags, they blame the limitations of the antiquated method. This bulletproof logic, in which applicants claim safety no matter what the data shows, or how badly the experiment was performed, is routine in formal GMO risk assessment.

To any honest observer, reading these applications is bound to raise profound and disturbing questions: about the trustworthiness of the applicants and equally of the regulators. They are impossible to reconcile with a functional regulatory system capable of protecting the public.

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Nitram

(22,890 posts)
6. If a population that large is conduming GMP products, that's huge sample to work with.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 02:28 PM
Oct 2016

It would be complex, but completely achievable, to design and carry out an investigation that would begin to answer your questions.

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