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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 10:11 AM Nov 2016

Clintons loss is one more nail in the coffin of center-left politics in the West

PARIS — When Donald Trump shocked the world with an upset victory in the U.S. presidential election this month, much of Europe was aghast.

But in at least one critical sense, the result couldn’t have been more European: Across the continent, parties of the center-left that have dominated politics for decades — and that have given Europe its reputation for generous social welfare systems — now find themselves beaten, divided and directionless. Hillary Clinton and the Democrats are just the latest members of a beleaguered club.

In Germany and Britain, once-mighty center-left parties have been badly diminished, locked out of their nations’ top jobs for the foreseeable future. In Spain and Greece, they have been usurped by newer, more radical alternatives. And in France and Italy, they’re still governing — but their days in power may be numbered. The rout of the center-left has even extended deep into Scandinavia, perhaps the world’s premier bastion of social democracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/clintons-loss-is-one-more-nail-in-the-coffin-of-center-left-politics-in-the-west/2016/11/24/44229664-ab3d-11e6-8f19-21a1c65d2043_story.html

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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
2. A left platform based on wage earner prosperity on a national basis
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:15 AM
Nov 2016

The successful parties appear to be Syriza and Podemos. These are fairly nationalistic in their focus, rather than being internationalist, pan-European or focused on subnational identity groups. They also focus primarily on economic concerns of workers, rather than on social or foreign policy issues.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
5. california minorities are a majority of the state
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:31 PM
Nov 2016

That's not the case in most other states.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
6. Clinton is ahead by about 3.8 million in CA, so she is about 1.5 million behind elsewhere
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:49 PM
Nov 2016

The Clinton popular vote win is due to the huge majority rolled up in California.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. yes, they went for, agreed with and wanted the "Sanders type**" D party Democracy.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:47 PM
Nov 2016

*change the 'status quo government'


The change the 'status quo government' , "drain the swamp"-Republican was their second choice. Wasn't a smart voter move because trump (and republicans) always lied about campaign promises, but the 'Trumpland people' believed and 'liked' him.

Hopefully the DNC UPGRADES and gets their shit together.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. We have a great agenda and had a candidate
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 05:40 AM
Nov 2016

who would have been at least a very good president.

The conspiracies against us and her succeeded. Anti-democratic forces had their "shit together" better, if you like. This election just proved how effectively the 40 years the Kochs and other dark-money operatives have engineered, widening, and deepening, the hostility of conservatives. The right has become a mostly monolithic attack dog for a few who intend to remake our nation to suit themselves.

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