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swag

(26,487 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:29 PM Nov 2016

What James Comey Did

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/12/08/what-james-comey-did/

David Cole

Whatever else one might say about the just-concluded 2016 presidential election, one thing is certain: FBI Director James Comey played an outsized and exceptionally inappropriate part. His highly prejudicial announcement on October 28, just eleven days before the election, that he had reopened an investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server ensured that the final critical days of the campaign were taken up with innuendos and suppositions set off by his action.

When Comey then announced on November 5, just two days before the election, that upon further review he had again found no basis to believe that Clinton had committed any crime, it only underscored the impropriety of his October 28 announcement. Had he conducted the review in confidence, as Justice Department rules require, the entire matter would have been resolved without interfering with the election. As it was, his October 28 announcement dramatically shifted the trajectory of the campaign, deflected attention from Donald Trump’s own considerable troubles, and inevitably influenced the choices of many early voters.

Comey made the renewed investigation public against Justice Department policy and rules, and over the objections of the attorney general and several other Justice Department officials, even though he had not even seen the new evidence, much less determined that it hinted at any wrongdoing on Clinton’s part. The announcement predictably played right into the hands of Trump, who immediately took the occasion to repeat his charge that Clinton should be locked up. None of this should have happened; under long-standing Justice Department practice, Comey should have kept silent about the fact of further investigation, especially so close to an election.

Whether Comey’s imprudent intervention changed the outcome of the presidential election, the damage to the integrity of both the political and criminal processes has been done. The criminal process has been politicized, and the political process has been tainted by misuse of official power. The question that remains is what should happen now. At a minimum, the Justice Department policies that Comey violated must be strengthened and formalized to ensure that this never happens again.

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What James Comey Did (Original Post) swag Nov 2016 OP
I don't think the word nightmare is going to encompass WhiteTara Nov 2016 #1
plus 1 red dog 1 Nov 2016 #14
Thank you for reminding all the Hillary blamers -- Comey tossed a nuclear bomb pnwmom Nov 2016 #2
There's a gaggle of the blamers active right now lapucelle Nov 2016 #29
Why Obama isn't going after him with a claw hammer lastone Nov 2016 #3
Why did Obama pick him in the first place? You see any Democrats being tabbed for appointments in Chakab Nov 2016 #4
THIS Stargleamer Nov 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #11
remember that bigoted, racist preacher at Obama;s 1st inauguration ( which I can not spell)??? pangaia Nov 2016 #13
EXACTLY!!! vi5 Nov 2016 #31
Because he's a magnanimous, brilliant, man. Who made mistakes. joshcryer Nov 2016 #35
Comey also had a strong reputation for integrity. Hortensis Nov 2016 #36
IMO,almost all top "law enforcement" have that "reputation." joshcryer Nov 2016 #37
I like to think that isn't true. Sure, people Hortensis Nov 2016 #38
I confess my cynicism. joshcryer Nov 2016 #39
Cynicism's okay when it's not just an ego-saving Hortensis Nov 2016 #40
No ....... I do not think you are looking at whole picture . Kathy M Nov 2016 #7
Good question! red dog 1 Nov 2016 #17
Lots and lots of questions DK504 Nov 2016 #23
We'll probably never know the answers to any of those questions red dog 1 Nov 2016 #26
Obama, have him suspended without pay while he is being investigated for lark Nov 2016 #5
Yep world wide wally Nov 2016 #16
plus 1 red dog 1 Nov 2016 #18
After the abuses of power by both J. Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon, it took WestSeattle2 Nov 2016 #6
Two different situations ... but one thing to keep in mind is the election of 1992 Kathy M Nov 2016 #8
See Sig Below kebob Nov 2016 #10
Excellent! red dog 1 Nov 2016 #20
He has made it known as 'The Republican FBI' keithbvadu2 Nov 2016 #12
"The FBI is Trumpland" red dog 1 Nov 2016 #21
Did anybody notice that he waited until the debates were over so she wouldn't have a national world wide wally Nov 2016 #15
I hate that slimy SOB. Little Star Nov 2016 #19
Why didn't Obama act immediately? red dog 1 Nov 2016 #22
I love my president but.... Little Star Nov 2016 #25
I agree! red dog 1 Nov 2016 #30
He should fire him around Christmas. Historic NY Nov 2016 #24
Comey-Republican operative apcalc Nov 2016 #27
What Comey did was to hand the presidency to Trump..period! red dog 1 Nov 2016 #28
Seems more like deflection and or directing suspicion. Wash. state Desk Jet Nov 2016 #32
Stop that putting hope in my mind! Little Star Nov 2016 #33
J. Edgar Hoover was completely outdone Zambero Nov 2016 #34

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
2. Thank you for reminding all the Hillary blamers -- Comey tossed a nuclear bomb
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:03 PM
Nov 2016

into the end of the election, and Hillary never had time to recover from it.

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
29. There's a gaggle of the blamers active right now
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:57 PM
Nov 2016

on the "Hillary lost because..." thread.

Several of them showed up at once, probably because a circle jerk is so much more fun than solitary masturbation.

One of them made the mistake of making the peculiar assertion that "even regular Democrats" didn't like Hillary.

What the hell is a regular Democrat?

 

lastone

(588 posts)
3. Why Obama isn't going after him with a claw hammer
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:04 PM
Nov 2016

I don't understand. Besides a "we got this" attitude by the Clinton camp Comey swayed the election, time to hold him accountable for breaking his own damn rules! Don't turn the other cheek to look to the fucking future, prosecute that lying little fuck as hard as possible.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
4. Why did Obama pick him in the first place? You see any Democrats being tabbed for appointments in
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:23 PM
Nov 2016

the Trump administration?

(Good God, I just typed the words "Trump administration." This is a fucking nightmare.)

Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
9. THIS
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:13 PM
Nov 2016

I never understood why Obama felt it necessary to "reach across the aisle" and appoint a Republican. The same goes with the Chuck Hagel appointment.

Response to Chakab (Reply #4)

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
13. remember that bigoted, racist preacher at Obama;s 1st inauguration ( which I can not spell)???
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:01 PM
Nov 2016

I almost vomited when I saw that..
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
31. EXACTLY!!!
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:59 PM
Nov 2016

The president's obsessive need for "bipartisanship" and having to seem like the adult in the room so that David Brooks will write nice things about him, or whatever other ridiculous motivation he has is to blame for what happened. If Comey were not the head of the FBI so that the President could have been praised (by nobody) for "reaching across the aisle", then likely this never would have happened.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
35. Because he's a magnanimous, brilliant, man. Who made mistakes.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 12:45 AM
Nov 2016

As his legacy is eroded (it won't be fully destroyed) he'll look back on that fact that they were obstructed in every way.

The man never had a budget passed beyond his first one, it was all continuing resolutions.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. Comey also had a strong reputation for integrity.
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 05:35 AM
Nov 2016

We know now, of course, that it was not based on actual integrity. The man's profoundly corrupt.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
37. IMO,almost all top "law enforcement" have that "reputation."
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 06:49 AM
Nov 2016

You don't get to the top without having a "good reputation." But it's a mile wide and an inch deep, as we see over and over again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. I like to think that isn't true. Sure, people
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 10:58 AM
Nov 2016

don't reach those levels by running nursery schools, but neither do the positions exclude people of sufficient honor and wisdom to serve their country properly.

ZERO acceptance for comeyism.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. Cynicism's okay when it's not just an ego-saving
Sat Nov 26, 2016, 01:13 PM
Nov 2016

facade for weakness and an acceptance that amounts to personal corruption, which it is far too often. With over 300 million people in this nation, there are many good ones to choose from. We could say a big no and "enjoy prison" to the Comeys if only a few more million decided to hold to some basic standards.

red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
17. Good question!
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:22 PM
Nov 2016

Why DIDN'T Obama do something about Comey as soon as the rat bastard sent that letter to Congress?

I'm no lawyer, but Comey's Anti-Clinton actions 10 days before the election seem to me to be a clear violation of the 1939 Hatch Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939

DK504

(3,847 posts)
23. Lots and lots of questions
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:34 PM
Nov 2016

Why didn't the AG go after Comey for the violation of the Hatch Act? Why didn't Prez. Obama fire Comey on the spot? How was this allowed to even be a thing without the AG's say so, she is his boss after all.

Corey's actions alone influenced the election to Trump, no doubt about it. How is it absolutely NOTHING has happened to him?

lark

(23,102 posts)
5. Obama, have him suspended without pay while he is being investigated for
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:35 PM
Nov 2016

violating the Hatch Act. It's especially egregious when he told Congress there were no ties between drumpf and russia and that too was a total lie. He needs to go down so repugs see there are consequences. They think they can steal the election like in 2000 and face no repercussions.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
6. After the abuses of power by both J. Edgar Hoover and Richard Nixon, it took
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:47 PM
Nov 2016

decades for Americans to view the FBI as an independent investigative agency. Comey trashed all of that with a five minute news conference. It was an absolutely foolish and incomprehensible action, for which he should be ashamed.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
8. Two different situations ... but one thing to keep in mind is the election of 1992
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:09 PM
Nov 2016

In the end election favored Clinton but a few days prior

"Some of you may have heard about a letter that the FBI director sent out yesterday," she said. "It’s pretty strange to put something like that out with so little information right before an election. In fact it’s not just strange -- it’s unprecedented, and it is deeply troubling." (See her remarks here at around 3:30.)

But is it? There’s one prior example that has at least some similarities -- the announcement of an indictment against Caspar Weinberger, the former defense secretary under President Ronald Reagan, just four days before the 1992 election, when Reagan’s vice president, George H.W. Bush, was running for a second term in the White House. "

Oh , the indictment was later dropped ..........

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/nov/01/was-james-comeys-letter-unprecedented-hillary-clin/

There are many articles if one wants to google Clinton , Bush , 1992 Weinberger

I voted Perot that election .........

Think it may be time for the Democratic party know and work on what kind of party it wants to be . Time may be better spent there instead of fixating on excuses .

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
15. Did anybody notice that he waited until the debates were over so she wouldn't have a national
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:18 PM
Nov 2016

platform to respond personally to the American people?
Coincidence?
Doubtful.

red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
22. Why didn't Obama act immediately?
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:34 PM
Nov 2016

President Obama should have done his job and immediately place Comey on un-paid leave, pending DOJ seeking an indictment against Comey for violation of the hatch Act of 1939.

The obvious other question is why the hell he appointed Comey as FBI Director in the first place.

(The Republican Party is the insane asylum of the United States, imo)

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
25. I love my president but....
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:44 PM
Nov 2016

he's going to have to live with the shame of that appointment & lack of placing Comey on un-paid leave, pending DOJ seeking an indictment against Comey for violation of the hatch Act. Huge misstep on his part.

red dog 1

(27,816 posts)
30. I agree!
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:58 PM
Nov 2016

However, although I, "used to love" Obama, I sure don't love him now, and I'm not too crazy about Hillary anymore either.
She should have called for election audits in all the key states, including Florida, on the day after the election.

We got robbed!

They stole yet another election!

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
32. Seems more like deflection and or directing suspicion.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:11 PM
Nov 2016

Small margin ,all that. I think it was more about what it looks like is what counts,not what it really is. A place to point,because of this,that happened. When she conceded she did say, someday a woman will be president of the United States,maybe sooner than they think.

Just maybe sooner not later because of what it really is.
It all reminded me of something very carefully staged.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
34. J. Edgar Hoover was completely outdone
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:29 PM
Nov 2016

Might as well change the FBI's DC Hoover building HQ name to Comey's Collusion Club. Equal "kudos" to the KGB. There's no telling what can be accomplished when committed team players work tireless (and shamelessly) toward the same goal.

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