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Interesting analysis of where Hillary went wrong (Original Post) Respectful Debate Nov 2016 OP
No one had to support Hillary. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #1
That was one of the most horrendously unreadable web sites I've ever seen. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #2
It's a blog site - no editorial control at all csziggy Nov 2016 #7
Judging by the content I'd say not Respectful Debate Nov 2016 #10
How was the site unreadable? Respectful Debate Dec 2016 #11
Cluttered, poorly designed. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #12
The average progressive who went third party or didn't vote lapucelle Nov 2016 #3
So the author thinks this was a reason?? JHan Nov 2016 #4
I think the term "Clintonian" gave the game away. lapucelle Nov 2016 #5
Yep, and it's also Purity politics BS.. JHan Nov 2016 #6
The point about the Clintonian echo chamber... sfwriter Nov 2016 #8
I missed that part due to the many voices. lapucelle Nov 2016 #9

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. No one had to support Hillary.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 12:21 PM
Nov 2016

We had to support the Democratic nominee and oppose the election of a fascist pig.

Now justify and rationalize that outcome.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,831 posts)
2. That was one of the most horrendously unreadable web sites I've ever seen.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 12:34 PM
Nov 2016

Scrolling past all the unnecessary crap to get to the text wasn't worth the effort, in the end.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
7. It's a blog site - no editorial control at all
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 01:26 PM
Nov 2016
What is Tremr?
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https://www.tremr.com/tremr/what-is-tremr


I wonder if it is aimed at those who have been thrown off Facebook or Twitter for hate speech?
10. Judging by the content I'd say not
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 11:04 AM
Nov 2016

Tremr seems to be very lacking in the kind of hateful stuff clogging up Twitter and Facebook. Mainly pretty reasoned progressive posts and debate from what I've seen.

lapucelle

(18,308 posts)
3. The average progressive who went third party or didn't vote
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 12:35 PM
Nov 2016

helped put Trump in the White House. The only miscalculation was the expectation that the average progressive who went third party or didn't vote would actually do the right thing on election day. Each of those average progressives made one catastrophic mistake on November 8. We will all have to live with the result of the aggregate of those single catastrophic mistakes. It was narcissistic self indulgence at its very worst.

Weaponized votes, like elections, have consequences. One of those consequences is the abject contempt of at least some the 63,000,000 people who they let down. The average progressive who voted third party or didn't vote needs to learn to live with it. They can't spin their way out of culpability.



JHan

(10,173 posts)
4. So the author thinks this was a reason??
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 12:35 PM
Nov 2016

"That required nothing less than the single most egregious and ridiculous error in U.S. political history. Not only had no one else ever made this unthinkable gaffe; Hillary herself didn't consider it in 2008, even in more desperate circumstances, against Obama. Ignoring all advice, with executives resigning in protest, without a vote or a precedent, Hillary shocked and enraged feminists by getting her friend, Cecile Richards, to have Planned Parenthood--until then a rallying point for all liberals--endorse a candidate during a Democratic primary. "

So this is why the white women didn't vote Hillary? What about the other colors of *progressive women who value planned parenthood and voted Hillz? ???


Look, not today eh. ..

#JesusTakeTheWheel
#ShangoShakeoffTheStupid
#BuddhaBeamMeUp

lapucelle

(18,308 posts)
5. I think the term "Clintonian" gave the game away.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 12:56 PM
Nov 2016

I'm not particularly interested in hearing the spin of the average progressive who voted third party or didn't vote. I feel abject and complete contempt for them, just like I did for the Naderites in 2000.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
6. Yep, and it's also Purity politics BS..
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 12:59 PM
Nov 2016

If so and so doesn't vote or think like me they are "evil" - because who has time to delve into nuanced positions on any damn thing.

And how far have they gotten with their pure vision of how the world should be, what's Jill's record in public service? Has she ever spent a day facing the challenges of your average public servant..

I can't take lazy critiques.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
8. The point about the Clintonian echo chamber...
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 01:40 PM
Nov 2016

Is spot on. See the comments on this thread for proof.

The Michigan voters were angry. It may turn out she actually won there though. Well see when Stein files.

lapucelle

(18,308 posts)
9. I missed that part due to the many voices.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 03:58 PM
Nov 2016

When you put 63,000,000 voters in an echo chamber, it gets loud.


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